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Re:U.K. Abandons, for Now, Legislation That Would Have Banne... by maxbond on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:08PM (#37408790)
Is quantum computing relevant to symmetric encryption like OTP? GP was talking about asymmetric encryption. My limited understanding is that quantum computing is a threat to asymmetric encryption.

There's also the question of, if you can distribute a key which is at least the same size as your message over a secure channel - why not just distribute your message over that channel in the first place?

Re:U.K. Abandons, for Now, Legislation That Would Have Banne... by karmanyaahm on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:10PM (#37408817)
> why not just distribute your message over that channel in the first place

Latency? You can hand deliver a password ahead of time, but not messages.

Re:U.K. Abandons, for Now, Legislation That Would Have Banne... by ianburrell on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:15PM (#37408895)
One-time pad isn't a password. It is a flash drive or hard drive full of random bits.
Re:U.K. Abandons, for Now, Legislation That Would Have Banne... by InitialLastName on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:50PM (#37409383)
The difference between those is just one of scale and storage.

You still have to reliably move a chunk of out-of-band information in a way such that it gets to (and only gets to) the person you want to have it.

Re:U.K. Abandons, for Now, Legislation That Would Have Banne... by ianburrell on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @03:49PM (#37410318)
The difference between one-time pad and stream cipher is provable, absolute secrecy, and really good secrecy. If don't care about that, there is zero point to one-time pad.

Also, it isn't just a "chunk", for one-time pad it has to be the same length as the messages. Which is fine if just short messages but a lot harder if lots of data.

If can exchange lots of data, better off using them as keys for stream cipher.

Re:U.K. Abandons, for Now, Legislation That Would Have Banne... by aetherson on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:53PM (#37409427)
One-time pads are obviously not a serious widespread cryptography proposal.

But the question of, "Why not just send the message instead of the pad" is pretty straightforward: when you have the opportunity to safely deliver the pad, you don't know what the message will be. When you do know what the message will be, you don't have the opportunity to safely deliver the pad.

Re:U.K. Abandons, for Now, Legislation That Would Have Banne... by hgomersall on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @03:37PM (#37410108)
Because with QKD you can distribute a random key knowing that there were no observers but you cannot distribute a message with the same guarantees. Specifically, any given bit exchanged might be observed, but that is detectable so the bit can be discarded.

I read some years ago about a non quantum technique to achieve the same based on (I think) noise in a coupled electronic system. I wonder if that has been tested further.