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Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by gumballindie on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @10:52AM (#37406056)
For me controlling the radio using a touch screen is an issue - i cant take my eyes off the road, and using driving wheel buttons that require fiddling is not great either. I need buttons and dials that leverage muscle memory.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by ghaff on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:03AM (#37406205)
Volume should absolutely be a knob or, less ideally, a pair of buttons. But does anyone have a physical radio dial any longer? (Even my 1998 Toyota with no touchscreen I sold last year didn't.) I think at least one manufacturer was considering eliminating FM radio all together.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by dylan604 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:23AM (#37406493)
>I think at least one manufacturer was considering eliminating FM radio all together.

Are you sure it wasn't the elimination of AM radio? I have not heard of anyone suggesting to kill the FM radio, but I'm not that dialed in

Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by ghaff on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:26AM (#37406523)
Actually I guess it's both. https://musictech.com/news/industry/ford-tesla-bmw-am-fm-rad... AM radio is sometimes used for information updates on roads etc. but I'm sure very few people use it.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by dylan604 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:29PM (#37407439)
interesting. maybe i blocked the FM part out, but i was distinctly remember AM. removing radio entirely makes sense, as i didn't really think that an FM only radio would be any cheaper than AM/FM would be.

>but I'm sure very few people use it.

The conservative side of the spectrum loves the AM band

Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by ghaff on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:35PM (#37407512)
I guess Ford at least is going to keep AM radio after all https://www.npr.org/2023/05/24/1177847361/ford-changes-direc... with the justification being it's an emergency alert system. I assume AM and FM antenna requirements are different and that's probably where the cost is.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by dylan604 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:41PM (#37407592)
I remember as a kid being fascinated with the first car that I saw that had the radio antenna embedded into the windscreen glass. All antennas I had seen were on top of houses, rabbit ears, or the long annoying things attached to cars/trucks. This tiny thin line that wasn't even exposed to air was the antenna? That opened up a rabbit hole.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by brewdad on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:32PM (#37407481)
Every car I've driven that was made in the past decade has volume control as two buttons on the steering wheel. There may or may not be a knob but the knob is less convenient than using the buttons right next to your hands. My current cars will also let you cycle through the radio presets using the >> and << buttons.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by throwaway1777 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:32AM (#37406636)
You’re old. Almost no one has that muscle memory anymore. Hell almost no one listens to the radio anymore, people listen to Spotify or podcasts.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by rootusrootus on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @01:50PM (#37408521)
I exclusively use streaming, and I still find that I want to control the volume, or skip to the next song, etc. Thankfully my car has a scroll wheel on the steering wheel to do that, or I'd be pretty irritated.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by throwaway1777 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @09:38PM (#37413695)
Most cars still have the steering wheel controls from what I’ve seen regardless of screens. I think even teslas have some steering wheel buttons