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Re:Organic Maps by OfSanguineFire on Friday September 01, 2023 @05:11AM (#37348454)
You can often find opening times of shops by searching for their own Facebook page instead of using Google Maps. Moreover, you can add business’ opening hours to OpenStreetMap so that other people in future will see the opening hours in Organic Maps and other OSM-based maps. For a programming-savvy crowd like HN, the syntax of OSM’s opening-hours tag is pretty straightforward.
Re:Organic Maps by Vinnl on Friday September 01, 2023 @05:14AM (#37348469)
> you can add business’ opening hours to OpenStreetMap

And by far the easiest way to do this, if you have an Android phone, is to use the beautiful StreetComplete app: https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/#readme

Re:Organic Maps by raybb on Friday September 01, 2023 @06:20AM (#37348890)
Street complete may be a bit more beginner friendly but if you just need to update hours or want to add details to several stores quickly everydoor is easier to me

https://every-door.app/

Re:Organic Maps by aembleton on Friday September 01, 2023 @07:27AM (#37349396)
Worth taking a look at Street Complete Extended Edition too: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete.e...
Re:Organic Maps by emaro on Friday September 01, 2023 @09:18AM (#37350441)
You can do it directly in Organic Maps as well.
Re:Organic Maps by habi on Friday September 01, 2023 @03:03PM (#37354895)
On iOS https://every-door.app/ wins for easiest `opening_hours` editor.
Re:Organic Maps by Aachen on Friday September 01, 2023 @06:24AM (#37348917)
> by searching for their own Facebook page

At that point I'd rather open up Google and give them the data point that someone is interested in this store at this time (to make these crowdedness plots) than provide Facebook with my data ._.

If they have an own website, sure, but a Facebook page? I'm not whitelisting those IP addresses for my browser to be able to visit that.

This is why I always add the website as the most important field for a POI btw: easy to click through, always up-to-date opening hours. They're very often out of date on OSM because the shop owners only supply that info to google and call it good.

Re:Organic Maps by OfSanguineFire on Friday September 01, 2023 @06:31AM (#37348961)
Because a Facebook page is the business’s own advertisement, you can add the opening hours displayed there straight to OpenStreetMap. (Google’s information obviously cannot be copied into OSM, and sometimes its opening hours are guessed from visitor data instead of added by the business itself.)

> This is why I always add the website as the most important field for a POI

It has been over a decade now since most physical-retail businesses began giving up on their own websites, using only Facebook pages instead, unless they are part of large chains.

Re:Organic Maps by teddyh on Friday September 01, 2023 @09:26AM (#37350533)
> It has been over a decade now since most physical-retail businesses began giving up on maintaining their own websites, using only Facebook pages instead, unless they are part of large chains.

This was indeed a trend a few years ago, but it is not true anymore, in my personal experience. Even tiny shops, if they are only a bit more technologically knowledgable than average, tend to have their own web page.

Re:Organic Maps by sundarurfriend on Friday September 01, 2023 @06:28AM (#37348945)
> You can often find opening times of shops by searching for their own Facebook page

Maybe a US thing? Where I live, less than 10% of the shops have a Facebook page, and I'd expect maybe 10% of those have up to date reliable information.

Re:Organic Maps by gniv on Friday September 01, 2023 @09:49AM (#37350817)
There is no UI for opening hours in Organic Maps afaict. I think that's part of the complaint.
Re:Organic Maps by NoboruWataya on Friday September 01, 2023 @10:33AM (#37351328)
There is. When you click on a place, there is an "edit place" option which allows you to edit common details including business hours.
Re:Organic Maps by gniv on Friday September 01, 2023 @11:14AM (#37351883)
Oh, I see it now -- sometimes it's there, but for a lot of places I cannot even lift the drawer, probably because there is no data other than category, like "Cafe". So I cannot edit.
Re:Organic Maps by andrewshadura on Friday September 01, 2023 @07:20PM (#37357195)
It usually means that you have outdated data. Update the app, update the data, try again.