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Re:Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” whe... by shafyy on Thursday August 31, 2023 @05:20AM (#37334505)
Which country is that? And how would you address a person called Martina Müller in a written document? "Sehr geehrte Müller?" Or is it not a German-speaking country you're referring to?
Re:Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” whe... by rob74 on Thursday August 31, 2023 @05:43AM (#37334651)
Even "sehr geehrte Müller" already includes the gender (it would be "sehr geehrter" for a man), so if you want to avoid the whole situation, you have to go informal, and indeed, I have received a lot of emails recently which start with simply "Hallo [firstName] [lastName]" (which I guess is still more formal then only "Hallo [firstName]").
Re:Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” whe... by shafyy on Friday September 01, 2023 @05:27AM (#37348562)
Sure, but in a more formal setting you wouldn't address somebody with "Hallo Martina". So my question is how would you avoid the Herr or Frau in a formal setting?
Re:Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” whe... by kuschku on Thursday August 31, 2023 @08:00AM (#37335826)
It turns out the people who want to be addressed by neutral gender usually don't care as much about Siezen and honorifics, so the systems I built usually just go with "Hallo" or "Moin". I even had one system which would go with "Sehr geehrte/r" for people who had chosen a title or set their language preference to "Deutsch (Sie)" and with "Moin" for everyone else.
Re:Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” whe... by nicbou on Thursday August 31, 2023 @10:23AM (#37337614)
Moin is not a good way to address your Ausländerbehörde case worker though. I'd go for the more disarming Hallöchen Popöchen.
Re:Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” whe... by generic92034 on Thursday August 31, 2023 @08:30AM (#37336170)
Is it not a similar issue in the US or UK? In a formal setting, e. g. communication from a company representative to an unknown (except for the name) representative from a different company, I would be using "Dear Ms./Mr. <last name>". If that is the correct way (please let me know!) you have to commit to one of only two genders and sometimes also the last name is a guess.
Re:Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” whe... by nicbou on Thursday August 31, 2023 @10:21AM (#37337594)
You could say Dear Firstname Lastname without being off.