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Re:Housing Is a Labor Issue: Land owners are taking all the ... by cpursley on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:26AM (#37319828)
Could you elaborate more about what you mean and how this would work?

Where do young adults live? Where do new residents in a city live?

Re:Housing Is a Labor Issue: Land owners are taking all the ... by aelhage on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:45AM (#37320021)
Not to mention the people that choose to rent. We can argue over how much landlords deserve, but they should generally be providing a service as well - maintaining the property and shielding the tenant from some of the risk.

I wonder if in this hypothetical "no renting" scenario we'd see complete home maintenance service companies take their place. It would be an improvement - you can fire them without moving, but I don't think we could expect them to be any less exploitative than landlords are now.

Re:Housing Is a Labor Issue: Land owners are taking all the ... by jppittma on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:47AM (#37320039)
There could be a government mortage program like the student loan program.
Re:Housing Is a Labor Issue: Land owners are taking all the ... by cpursley on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:14AM (#37320280)
Yes, because the government backed student loans worked out so well (they didn't, they massively inflated education costs and hurt poor people because you can't write them off via bankruptcy).
Re:Housing Is a Labor Issue: Land owners are taking all the ... by dagw on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:46AM (#37320580)
If I'm moving to a new city/country for a job (or university), I don't want to buy a place on day 1. I want to rent for a year or so to see if this is a place I actually want to live. This is even more true if I'm moving there on a shorter term contract.
Re:Housing Is a Labor Issue: Land owners are taking all the ... by wildrhythms on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:12AM (#37320270)
Public/social housing. Vienna already does this.[1] Another example: in 2021 the city of Berlin acquired 15k units from corporate landlords bringing the total publicly-owned units to about 20% the total of rental units in the city.[2]

>Experts refer to Vienna’s Gemeindebauten as “social housing,” a phrase that captures how the city’s public housing and other limited-profit housing are a widely shared social benefit: The Gemeindebauten welcome the middle class, not just the poor. In Vienna, a whopping 80 percent of residents qualify for public housing, and once you have a contract, it never expires, even if you get richer. Housing experts believe that this approach leads to greater economic diversity within public housing — and better outcomes for the people living in it.

[1] https://archive.is/P2Vad

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/23/magazine/vienna-social-ho...

[1] https://www.huduser.gov/portal/pdredge/pdr_edge_featd_articl...

[2] https://apnews.com/article/europe-business-elections-berlin-...

Re:Housing Is a Labor Issue: Land owners are taking all the ... by em-bee on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:52AM (#37322177)
In Vienna, a whopping 80 percent of residents qualify for public housing

but only 0.5 million out of an almost 2 million population do live in public housing, and it takes several years before you can get such a place.