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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by michaelmrose on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:44PM (#37316640)
The Germans who died in the 30s and 40s would be alive if the Nazis had been denied access to oxygen. As some of their heirs openly talk about murdering us I don't think in the long run we'll still be mutually protecting each others rights.

It in fact might be kinder to deny them rights now than life later.

People who openly advocate for mass violence even if vague and theoretical belong in prison.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @10:20PM (#37316885)
> People who openly advocate for mass violence even if vague and theoretical belong in prison.

Okay, so put them in prison!

But if they're not in prison they should have electricity, mail, communications.

Hell, even if they are in prison they get those things.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by chonkerz on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:13AM (#37318307)
You think the companies they do business with should be forced against their will to carry their hateful communications?
Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @04:56AM (#37319282)
If they choose to enter a utility market, yes.

They can leave the market at any time, but ISPs should not be making these choices.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by vdqtp3 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @12:03AM (#37317521)
> if the Nazis had been denied access to oxygen

>As some of their heirs openly talk about murdering us

> People who openly advocate for mass violence even if vague and theoretical belong in prison.

Wait.......didn't you just openly advocate for mass violence (denying them oxygen) against the philosophical heirs of Nazis, even if only in a vague and theoretical fashion?

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by michaelmrose on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:33AM (#37318429)
I did not. I said specifically that Germans in hindsight ought to have bled the Nazis rather than descend into the hellscape that followed and we with the gift of their terrible example should shut down the monsters now when this can be done non-violently. Please attend more carefully to my words.

> It in fact might be kinder to deny them rights now than life later.

Lock up the bad guys now so we aren't in a position where our only options are fascism or murder.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by hotdogscout on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @12:44AM (#37317764)
>People who openly advocate for mass violence even if vague and theoretical belong in prison

I very much agree but this is so one-sided. Would you support arresting Muslims who support Shariah? Would you support arresting Stalinists?

There are sadly so many groups that advocate for mass violence I think it's pointless how people only seem to care about the single one that's most vilified and defeated.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by michaelmrose on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:37AM (#37318449)
I don't think this is complicated at all. If the are merely organizing and trying to use proper legal procedures to implement their designs they should be defeated at the ballot box if they plot to implement by force they belong in prison.