Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by brianwawok on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @03:17PM
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Why are large industrial motors three-phase? I almost always see large industry getting three-phase, which I assumed either gave more power or more efficiency.
Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by thsksbd on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @03:58PM
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It has nothing to do with efficiency (do the math on the conductor gauge and it all mostly cancels out) or power (idem) but the types of motors used (squirrel cage I believe).
The problem is getting the motor to start spinning. You cant start all motors on just one or two phases. And if a motor isn't spinning, it's essentially a short.
Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by midoridensha on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:01AM
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No, very large single-speed industrial motors are synchronous motors, not squirrel-cage (induction). These motors cannot start spinning on any number of phases: they can only run at the synchronous speed (which is dictated by the power line frequency and the number of poles in the motor). And it's not a short; it just doesn't run at all if you supply power to it; it only works once it's at the synchronous speed. These motors are used because they're the most efficient type of AC motor. Induction motors have "slip" of around 3% IIRC.
Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by quickthrowman on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @05:20PM
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Basically what the sibling comment said, it’s easier to start a three-phase motor, and a three-phase motor will also run more smoothly as it is powered by 3 sine waves 120 degrees out of phase with each other which provides constant power; versus a single-phase motor being powered by a single sine wave that outputs no power at the middle of the sine wave with two power peaks, which doesn’t run as smoothly as three-phase power with no points of zero power output.
Controlling the motor with a VFD is how you increase the efficiency and performance of a three-phase motor, simply being a three-phase motor provides no efficiency benefit other than you can use slightly smaller conductors to power the motor.