Re:RTO orders look like a way for elite, work-obsessed CEOs ...
by theandrewbailey on Friday August 25, 2023 @09:54AM
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It's also a great way to prop up the value of commercial real estate investments. It's pretty hard to justify the sky-high rent for that restaurant that everyone used to go to, but having everyone back in offices changes that.
Re:RTO orders look like a way for elite, work-obsessed CEOs ...
by watters on Friday August 25, 2023 @10:22AM
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The part of this that is so bizarre to me is that the offices to which folks are being asked to return are frequently ergonomic wastelands of poorly ventilated open floor plan desk motels that are difficult to sanitize effectively, if employers are even trying.
The policies aren't even coherent enough to motivate companies to actually make their workplaces conducive to effectiveness.
Re:RTO orders look like a way for elite, work-obsessed CEOs ...
by n_ary on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:46AM
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Disclaimer: Own observation, sample size of one opinion.
In this day and age, you don’t innovate, you mostly sell crap online and build an empire by living in some low cost country. Innovation only happens at work these days behind heavy IP protection laws and NDAs.
Re:RTO orders look like a way for elite, work-obsessed CEOs ...
by hughesjj on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:02AM
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"elite"
> "For most employees, life is partly work, but partly things outside work," Stanford economist Nick Bloom said. "These elite CEOs probably work 100-plus hours a week and they're much more work-focused." The mandates symbolize the sharp disconnect right now between the way CEOs and employees think about work.
I see that Nick Bloom is as highly cited researcher with a bunch of clout, but his speculation that people like the Goldman sachs ceo "work" anywhere near 100 hours a week really throw into doubt his veracity.
That said the rest of his work seems solid, just an odd off the cuff remark imo, or a different definition of "work"
Re:RTO orders look like a way for elite, work-obsessed CEOs ...
by apercu on Friday August 25, 2023 @12:00PM
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"a different definition of "work"
Playing golf. Talking about work over lavish lunches. Having flexibility in your days to go to the gym, run errands, these things all extend the "work" week.
Re:RTO orders look like a way for elite, work-obsessed CEOs ...
by dontupvoteme on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:58AM
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It's a feature of capitalism.
They're worried you might be working two jobs, or might make/join a startup and compete with them, or generally not feel enslaved to your employer.
At at the very top, at the big shareholder level, they don't want the middle class having too much freedom, because they do pose a potential threat to them.
The policies aren't even coherent enough to motivate companies to actually make their workplaces conducive to effectiveness.
That they're willing to sacrifice effectiveness for an illusory sense of control is precisely what I'm characterizing as bizarre ;-).
In this day and age, you don’t innovate, you mostly sell crap online and build an empire by living in some low cost country. Innovation only happens at work these days behind heavy IP protection laws and NDAs.
> "For most employees, life is partly work, but partly things outside work," Stanford economist Nick Bloom said. "These elite CEOs probably work 100-plus hours a week and they're much more work-focused." The mandates symbolize the sharp disconnect right now between the way CEOs and employees think about work.
I see that Nick Bloom is as highly cited researcher with a bunch of clout, but his speculation that people like the Goldman sachs ceo "work" anywhere near 100 hours a week really throw into doubt his veracity.
That said the rest of his work seems solid, just an odd off the cuff remark imo, or a different definition of "work"
Playing golf. Talking about work over lavish lunches. Having flexibility in your days to go to the gym, run errands, these things all extend the "work" week.
:)
They're worried you might be working two jobs, or might make/join a startup and compete with them, or generally not feel enslaved to your employer.
At at the very top, at the big shareholder level, they don't want the middle class having too much freedom, because they do pose a potential threat to them.
I do believe that this should rather refer to the theater where work merely appears to happen.