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Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by puttycat on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:55PM (#37226333)
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by samspenc on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:30PM (#37228138)
Thanks, didn't realize Verge was also paywalled these days.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by jdboyd on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @06:53PM (#37229655)
That seems to lead to an endless CAPTCHA loop.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by mistrial9 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @02:37PM (#37226855)
the first niche research paper I found looking recently, on a niche topic.. was "AI for reading research papers" that looked for nouns associated with this niche, and then the context, and did that for thousands of publications. That writeup was released publicly in 2018.

If you think a founder of Google does not have tools like that on Day0, you might be in for some surprises in a year.

Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by amadeuspagel on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @07:57PM (#37230164)
Are they able to convert research papers to HTML yet?
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by seeknotfind on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @01:15AM (#37232133)
html to a nice printable pdf is harder, btw.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by catchnear4321 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @02:12PM (#37226551)
oligarchs of current year aren’t so different from their ancestors, blood or money.

throwing parties and talking and listening to each other talk.

Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by renewiltord on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:05PM (#37227850)
I have to laugh at an unrecognized Sergey Brin talking to stall for time at an AI hackathon while the audience waits for the real speaker, Grimes. That's a very enjoyable picture.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by Michelangelo11 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:55PM (#37228385)
Right? Feels like something out of Silicon Valley.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by strikelaserclaw on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @07:56PM (#37230143)
I mean are these people anything more than influencers in the AI world?
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by hindsightbias on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @08:44PM (#37230511)
A googler told me how Sergey would sit down at any table in the cafeteria. New hires would ask him what he did at the company.

I used to ride a contractor shuttle to NASA’s JSC. Pair of new hires and a colorfully dressed woman being escorted on the bus. Upon us getting off, one new hire looked around and said “I wonder if we’ll see any astronauts.” The woman was Sally Ride.

Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by birdyrooster on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:23PM (#37228050)
By retiring early, he sorta let Google, this still immature organization, get completely steamrolled by the board. I used to work there and the culture shifted rapidly upon his departure.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by EMIRELADERO on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @06:46PM (#37229590)
Could you elaborate on the changes?
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by birdyrooster on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @10:16PM (#37231112)
First was the elimination of TGIF, a weekly meeting where Larry and Sergei would come out in the flesh and answer some of the most politically sensitive questions you could imagine right there at 1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy, second was the rule of CFO Ruth Porat who eliminated many bets and turned Google into a lean mean ad selling machine. Sundar Pichai seemed too distant or disinterested to fully engage with Googlers or fight for their interests. For example, his first order of business was to take over one of the three buildings off Charleston and make it off limits to mere mortals. Maybe that is good for share holders, but it wasn't the Google I ever signed up for.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by EMIRELADERO on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @10:44PM (#37231293)
As a general rule of thumb, any publicly-traded company of sufficient size becomes beholden to shareholders and shareholders only, out of necessity.

That's why I inmediately grow suspicious of any mid-to-large sized enterprise that goes public. They all deserve to be looked at with wary eyes.

Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by JimtheCoder on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:38PM (#37228196)
This does make for good media, but does anyone believe that adding one more cook to the kitchen at Google is going to measurably change their trajectory in this area?
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by ajhurliman on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @09:24PM (#37230779)
Maybe not, but management does have outsized effects on culture which _can_ be a game-changer for trajectory.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by dkobia on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @04:50AM (#37233387)
One more cook with god mode access, yes. Imagine driving through a city and all the lights turning green. Agility at large companies is hampered by middle management and a fast pass helps.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by flippinburgers on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @07:18PM (#37229855)
Paywalled so I will not attempt to read but the first little bit... Just makes me imagine what it must be like to be one of these elite engineer types at insanely luxurious parties talking to "experts" all day long and I have to take a hard look in the mirror and wonder why my life is such ... s***.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by vlod on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @07:37PM (#37229988)
This link (for me anyway) doesn't cause the loop like the other one:

https://archive.is/rRVo4

Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by kasdi on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @03:38AM (#37232904)
This is the same link.
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by vlod on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:35AM (#37235618)
Well it did work yesterday, but for some reason today, it's doing the same loop when you click 'i am not a robot' sigh
Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by steno132 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @08:55PM (#37230583)
Google was never the same after Sergey left. With him, all employees, execs, investors shared the original credos of organizing the world's information.

And after him, it became like any corporation, with everyone seeking to gain as much personal wealth as they could. The dream was dead.

I saw this firsthand.

Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by firecall on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @09:43PM (#37230893)
How much was Eric Schmidt a factor in the culture?

Ive read that a lot of the early days of Google being the Google we used to love were down to Schmidt.

We dont hear much about him, so I’ve always wondered.

Schmidt succeeded with Google where John Scully failed Apple!

Re:Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to wo... by singron on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @01:15AM (#37232132)
When do you think Sergey left? Wikipedia says he was president of alphabet until 2019, but I feel like he was sort of an absentee leader for years before that. Eric Schmidt was CEO until 2011. Larry Page was CEO until 2015 when Sundar became CEO and Ruth Porat became CFO. To me, these felt like more significant changes, but honestly everything was probably very gradual.