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Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by SkyPuncher on Saturday August 19, 2023 @07:09AM (#37187559)
Further, this seems like such a freaking simple fix. Provide first party white noise.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by jaxelr on Saturday August 19, 2023 @08:05AM (#37187894)
Crazy to think that iOs does and it barely gets noticed.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by veave on Saturday August 19, 2023 @08:09AM (#37187923)
It's tremendously hidden. Of course it barely gets noticed.

There are so many hidden gems in accessibility settings, at this point it should be called advanced settings instead.

Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by MichaelZuo on Saturday August 19, 2023 @02:00PM (#37191382)
No it isn't, on ios 16.6 it's not even 10 clicks to get to the granular options. Are you on an older version?
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by OGWhales on Saturday August 19, 2023 @02:27PM (#37191636)
I feel as though accessibility is not a spot most people would think to check for that.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by IshKebab on Saturday August 19, 2023 @02:57PM (#37191914)
10 clicks is tremendously hidden.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by 4ec0755f5522 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @03:15PM (#37192105)
I tested right now and it's 5: Settings -> Accessibility -> Audio/Visual -> Background Sounds -> on/off/sounds/etc.

It may be the number of items that are part of why people consider these settings "hidden". The "Accessiblity" menu is now 23 items long, and the main Settings menu is 53 Apple items plus over 100 application items.

Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by MichaelZuo on Saturday August 19, 2023 @04:30PM (#37192837)
Well yes, when there are thousands of possible configurations to accomodate the vast majority of potential users, and to keep confusion to a minimum by assigning a unique place in the UI to every possible option, it has to be spread out a lot.

Even the most buried possible setting in iOS is 9 clicks or less, and for the bigger features usually a lot less as you've demonstrated, hence it's not correct to call it 'hidden'.

Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by squeaky-clean on Saturday August 19, 2023 @05:14PM (#37193277)
That's assuming the correct path is taken every time. If I didn't know where the white noise tool was, I wouldn't even think to check the settings for a noise generator. But if I did, it would go

Settings then Sounds & Haptics. 16 options, none seem to match. Maybe "personalized spatial audio?" Oh no,that's saying I need special headphones.

OK it's not under Sounds. Maybe it's in the Focus section? That's what I would use white noise for, focus. 6 options. Maybe it's under "Work Focus" or "Sleep Focus"? No.

General? 15 options, all with sub-menus but none seem relevant.

Control Center? Probably not... That seems safe to ignore. Except if I selected the "Hearing" option in Control Center settings, that actually gives me access to the background noise generator in control-center. But that doesn't seem obvious to me at all.

OK next is Display & Brightness and Home Screen. Probably safe to skip. Which then brings us to Accessibility. Again, it doesn't feel likely to me that it's in here, but no other choice in the settings feels correct, except maybe the Music app? Nope nothing there.

I check accessibility. I look past 18 options and see "Hearing" again, might as well tap that option. Even "Background Sounds" doesn't match what I'm looking for mentally, "White Noise". So it's likely my eyes miss it when I scan the list of options.

IMO it's an app. So make it an app, not an accessibility setting.

It's still hidden, just in a breadth of options instead of depth. A needle hidden in a 1 acre lot covered 1cm high in hay is more hidden than a needle in a 10 ft cube haystack.

Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by MichaelZuo on Saturday August 19, 2023 @09:51PM (#37195249)
There's a search tool, for all the menus, right at the top?

Have you ever used an iPhone as a day to day device?

A user manually checking every possible submenu to find what they are looking for would be quite an outlier. If they are that determined then I don't see what the issue is, since presumably they are then going to inspect them all anyways.

Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by AverageDude on Saturday August 19, 2023 @08:08AM (#37187914)
TIL
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by glimshe on Saturday August 19, 2023 @08:09AM (#37187924)
Random numbers with a brand would the ultimate excess of Capitalism.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by tough on Saturday August 19, 2023 @08:58AM (#37188320)
There was this band who was making money by asking their fans to listen to their white noise playlist 24/7
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by Iulioh on Saturday August 19, 2023 @09:12AM (#37188423)
iirc it was a blank track so literally no sound and it was supposed to be for founding a tour
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by skidd0 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @02:15PM (#37191530)
Vulfpeck's Sleepify album. The tracks were silent so you could play them in the background. They used the proceeds to fund a free tour for their fans.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by Dylan16807 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @05:02PM (#37193160)
That cuts to how much of a mess spotify payouts are in general, where the subscription revenue pool is paid out based on global listens, and the people with fewer hours of use don't control which artists get most of their money. But as far as I'm aware the big labels don't like the idea of changing that.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by notatoad on Saturday August 19, 2023 @02:17PM (#37191543)
it seems likely that's the "plan that never came to fruition" mentioned in the article.
Re:Spotify Annoyed by People Uploading Hours of White Noise by runjake on Saturday August 19, 2023 @02:26PM (#37191625)