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Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by justsomehnguy on Friday August 18, 2023 @07:59AM (#37174465)
Last year I've been asked by a guy for directions to the hotel where he was staying.

It standed out for me because:

a) he was clearly in his early 20s

b) he asked me this after boarding the bus on the same stop as me

c) he could find out the directions just by using a plethora of map/navigation (GPS for Americans) apps available here

d) he was going the wrong way

Just yesterday I saw a woman trying to find out which route she needs to board. She was in ~50s and I can bet $10 she had an Android phone => at least Google Maps. She just didn't even though about using it.

So despite it's 2023 there are people there who still live like it's 1990.

Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by Brajeshwar on Friday August 18, 2023 @08:12AM (#37174578)
Well, many a times, the analog method are way faster. When trying to figure out the direction of a public transport, especially underground, I like to quickly ask someone for the direction to which a train/tube is traveling to. It is way faster than using a smartphone underground or trying to find the signs that says so.

A habit I picked up when building digital/technology features -- how does this compete with pen/paper or an analog method.

Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by smokel on Friday August 18, 2023 @08:11AM (#37174564)
I'm in my 40s and I really love fooling around in real life. Observing printed maps by moving my entire body or my head towards it, is more relaxing than having to actively take out my phone and finger my way to the same information on this minuscule device.

I find interacting with sign posts or humans more enjoyable than living in the matrix where I have to find the correct bus provider website, learn to navigate its crappy user interface, finally having to revert to Google maps, and then get the suggestion to go by boat.

Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by kjkjadksj on Friday August 18, 2023 @11:56AM (#37177486)
Or you can just start with google maps, type in your destination, and take the appropriate bus route that even shows you where the hell the bus is right now, which will also not involve a small rowboat or whatever hyperbole you are envisioning.
Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by smokel on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:08PM (#37177691)
I'm sorry that you don't appreciate hyperbole, but in Europe, public transport planning by Google Maps is quite often inferior to local services. And these local services do suggest water taxis here and there.

Also, typing in the destination still is cumbersome. I hope we can agree on that.

Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by bombcar on Friday August 18, 2023 @08:01AM (#37174483)
Foreign travelers often don’t have cell access, or don’t have it until they arrive at their first stop.
Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by Ekaros on Friday August 18, 2023 @08:06AM (#37174515)
Or they know that roaming is horribly expensive outside certain cases like inside EEA for EEA contracts.

And hunting for working wifi might be complicated as well.

Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by bombcar on Friday August 18, 2023 @08:12AM (#37174579)
Exactly. You have to be pretty technologically inclined and have done extensive research to determine how to get a data sim in a foreign country, and not get screwed by roaming costs.

Even I, an HN tech god, rely on McDonald’s Wi-Fi and the Here app, even when I do have data enabled, as it’s often painfully slow.

Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by thfuran on Friday August 18, 2023 @04:53PM (#37181956)
Can't you mostly just pick them up at the airport when you arrive? That may not be the absolute cheapest option, but SIMs are not usually hard to find.
Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by nikau on Friday August 18, 2023 @09:16PM (#37184404)
Sounds like they are just making life hard for themselves, I always check prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com before the trip and get the most suitable sim card at the airport.
Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by fragmede on Friday August 18, 2023 @09:40PM (#37184585)
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Re:Why Japan has so many ‘never travelers’ by nikau on Friday August 18, 2023 @10:23PM (#37184855)
Yep an esim is even more convenient.

Last time I travelled was pre-pandemic before esims were common place, so I just pre-ordered a SIM card online that I just needed to pick up from an airport booth after showing my passport.

Depending on the country and how rural you are travelling it can also be worth checking out the coverage and frequency band compatibility to ensure you get the best reception possible.