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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by londons_explore on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:04AM (#37075107)
> today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war

Would you issue such a statement in his position? Think carefully. If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. If you do, your family back home might be at risk, and you will probably never be able to visit them again.

Personally, I cannot in good faith demand anyone condemn the war, if to do so, they are putting family and friends freedoms at risk.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by azangru on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:28AM (#37075333)
> If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name.

Do Twitter crowds actually do that? Do they keep track of anyone more or less prominent, and write in their comments "Have you spoken out against the war yet?" "I haven't seen you denounce the war"?

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by londons_explore on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:03AM (#37075640)
It mostly happens via private messaging, but yes. It's part of the "you are either with us or against us" mentality of many campaign groups.

See ~2 years ago when every opensource project was forced to publish a code of conduct and diversity and inclusion policy... Often the people asking for the policies weren't even users of the software involved, let alone interested in writing code for the proect. That campaign seems to have ended, and nobody cares if your project has either anymore.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by azangru on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:08AM (#37075672)
> That campaign seems to have ended, and nobody cares if your project has either anymore.

Has the movement to rename every master branch to main quietened down as well?

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by dijit on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:20AM (#37075804)
Only because it was successful.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by simoncion on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:19AM (#37076489)
There are many active 'master' branches at work, and many, many active 'master' branches on Github.

By that measure, the movement to rename every 'master' branch to 'main' has been a resounding failure.

(If you look at the events at the time it sprung up, you could pretty safely say that it was encouraged as a way to distract from the then-current "GitHub is doing business with US's ICE!" hatestorm, and man was it successful.)

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by dijit on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:26AM (#37076583)
If your only active metric is "all or nothing". Sure, there's a few.

But the major git hosting platforms are only using 'main' as the default for new branches, and there is significant enough social stigma for new projects that it's preferred to use main.

I don't have precise statistics, but I would happily wager that even though master was the default for so long that the majority of git repositories that have been contributed to in the last 30 days are not 'master' as the default branch name.

To change a default with such inertia as to completely skew the demographic in favour of the new rather than the status quo: I would certainly merit that as success.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by justsomehnguy on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:12AM (#37077182)
> completely skew the demographic

By 'twitter brigades trying to smear your name'. Great success!

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by anononaut on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:43AM (#37076082)
This still makes my blood boil. I've seen people dance around the word master now.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by justrealist on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:24AM (#37076554)
GitHub changed the default to "main" so 95% of new projects will default there.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by dijit on Thursday August 10, 2023 @03:42PM (#37080775)
Gitlab too, and there is enough reason to believe the tool itself will change to “main”: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26488039
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by unsupp0rted on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:11AM (#37075709)
Remember that time a year ago in February when the Namecheap CEO gave every person with a Russian ID, living inside and outside Russia, 1-week notice that their account is terminated and they have to host elsewhere?

Including expats, refugees, objectors, what have you. Your contract with Namecheap is terminated for being connected to Russia. Prove to us you're not, if you want to keep your service.

His justification? Well we have a lot of Ukrainian staff and you know, we're not with Russia therefore we're against Russia, therefore...

> If we were virtue signaling we wouldn't willingly be giving up a not non significant part of our business. This hurts us financially but it's the right thing to do, at least for us. Your leader/country is already killing innocent civilians/ukranians. They are putting it all on the line with their lives. They didn't ask for this yet they are dying for it. Change needs to come and the only way it can is for the Russian population to put it on the line as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30505789

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:45AM (#37076099)
We must do whatever it takes to protect the sacred 1991 borders of Ukraine.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by cpymchn on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:04AM (#37076305)
To take you literally for a moment: if anyone can claim land across a border, based on a historical grievance, then no border would stand. 70 years without a border war in Europe, so yeah we should try to push that water back up the hill. Otherwise a recursive "I would like my land back please."
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by ulucs on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:29AM (#37077447)
70 years? I wish I was living in that Europe
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by h0h0h0h0111 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:54AM (#37077793)
Kosovo, Northern Ireland, Cyprus
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by unsupp0rted on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:24AM (#37076551)
Whatever a person's stance on ongoing political events or active conflicts, punishing them en masse for choosing to be born on the wrong side of an arbitrary border is nonsensical.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by cpursley on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:42AM (#37076781)
And it’s antithetical to western values. Historically, we don’t do collective punishment - yet here we are.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by throw-ru-938 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:51AM (#37076896)
I'm sorry but having observed this since 24/02, collective punishment is very much part of the actual Western values.

(Disclaimer: I'm a Russian émigré, not in the West myself but have friends there.)

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by pphysch on Thursday August 10, 2023 @12:51PM (#37078580)
Ethnic cleansing of North America, Slave codes, yellow peril, Japanese internment, red scare, islamophobia, red scare 2.0 (ongoing), yellow peril 2.0 (ongoing)

And that's just USA.

What is "historically" supposed to mean here?

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mcpackieh on Thursday August 10, 2023 @03:54PM (#37080932)
> Historically, we don’t do collective punishment

Of course we do. We regularly sanction countries in ways which are designed to pressure the civilian population into overthrowing their government.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by oneshtein on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:55AM (#37077813)
What you actually do to protect sacred 1991 borders of Ukraine? Are you helping children, who lost parts of their body, for example?
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:06PM (#37078761)
That was tongue in cheek/sarcasm. I think it's insane people are dying for this.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by oneshtein on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:27PM (#37079029)
If a killer will break-in a house and kill someone, it's not about doors or walls.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:10PM (#37079670)
This wasn't a killer that broke in and killed someone.

This was more like going to an old friend and asking for something you left there years ago.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mrguyorama on Thursday August 10, 2023 @03:12PM (#37080453)
Oh god no. Ukraine DOES NOT WANT TO BE RUSSIA. They got that experience, it sucked awfully.

This is like an emancipated child being abducted.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by throw-ru-938 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @04:22PM (#37081253)
There are people living on that land, it's not a "thing".
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mcpackieh on Thursday August 10, 2023 @04:34PM (#37081403)
The Russian military are literally killers breaking into Ukraine and killing people.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Friday August 11, 2023 @10:06AM (#37088822)
I'm pretty sure the first shot was fired by Ukrainians.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by oneshtein on Friday August 11, 2023 @10:34AM (#37089145)
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by jamespo on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:01AM (#37076275)
Oh no, not cancelling
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by scrollaway on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:04AM (#37076312)
Don't generalize. Your statement, as-is, is nothing but flamebait.

Some people do that. Some of those people are Ukrainian. I've also seen non-Ukrainians do it, and I know plenty of Ukrainians who aren't doing that, which falsifies your comment from the get-go.

With that said, looking at your comment history, I'm just pissing in the wind saying that.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by whimsicalism on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:37AM (#37076720)
I have seen this numerous times on Twitter explicitly with almost the exact phrasing you are indicating.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by helge9210 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:38AM (#37075432)
> I cannot in good faith demand

While some people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasyl_Makukh ) sacrificed their lives in protest of Soviet Russia invasion into Czechoslovakia, timely public statement is the least he could do.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by salad-tycoon on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:23AM (#37077339)
“Sir! We demand your sacrifice your life to us now! It’s tour duty.”

Not your call, nor for any other arm chair general.

Right or wrong.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by risyachka on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:10AM (#37075690)
Nothing to thing about here.

He could've left russia long time ago along with family and friends.

But he enjoys russian money even though he has more than enough for 100 lifetimes.

So yeah, I can in good faith demand from him and most other russians to condemn the war. Because the reason it happened is precisely that everyone does nothing in russia.

Most of them flee the country because they don't want to get into army, and even when they are abroad and in safety - they still don't condemn the war.

So fear has zero to do with their position.

Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mistrial9 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:39AM (#37076752)
randomly opens a "history of lynching" academic paper while thinking about this...
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by throw-ru-938 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:48AM (#37076860)
His family has left Russia back in 2014.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by slashdev on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:07AM (#37077117)
There’s always someone who stayed. It doesn’t have to be the very closest part of your family.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mcpackieh on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:07AM (#37077114)
Doesn't really mean they're safe, does it? A whole lot of ex-Russians in other countries have been killed under suspicious circumstances.
Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by throw-ru-938 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @04:18PM (#37081204)
Hmm, on second thought, you may be right and I probably overreacted. I still don't really believe Putin would exact revenge on Volozh — Oleg Tinkoff defected back in spring 2022, and I think his family is quite fine — but relying on Russia not being stupid doesn't sound wise right now.