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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by unsupp0rted on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:11AM (#37075709)
Remember that time a year ago in February when the Namecheap CEO gave every person with a Russian ID, living inside and outside Russia, 1-week notice that their account is terminated and they have to host elsewhere?

Including expats, refugees, objectors, what have you. Your contract with Namecheap is terminated for being connected to Russia. Prove to us you're not, if you want to keep your service.

His justification? Well we have a lot of Ukrainian staff and you know, we're not with Russia therefore we're against Russia, therefore...

> If we were virtue signaling we wouldn't willingly be giving up a not non significant part of our business. This hurts us financially but it's the right thing to do, at least for us. Your leader/country is already killing innocent civilians/ukranians. They are putting it all on the line with their lives. They didn't ask for this yet they are dying for it. Change needs to come and the only way it can is for the Russian population to put it on the line as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30505789

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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:45AM (#37076099)
We must do whatever it takes to protect the sacred 1991 borders of Ukraine.
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by cpymchn on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:04AM (#37076305)
To take you literally for a moment: if anyone can claim land across a border, based on a historical grievance, then no border would stand. 70 years without a border war in Europe, so yeah we should try to push that water back up the hill. Otherwise a recursive "I would like my land back please."
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by ulucs on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:29AM (#37077447)
70 years? I wish I was living in that Europe
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by h0h0h0h0111 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:54AM (#37077793)
Kosovo, Northern Ireland, Cyprus
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by unsupp0rted on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:24AM (#37076551)
Whatever a person's stance on ongoing political events or active conflicts, punishing them en masse for choosing to be born on the wrong side of an arbitrary border is nonsensical.
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by cpursley on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:42AM (#37076781)
And it’s antithetical to western values. Historically, we don’t do collective punishment - yet here we are.
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by throw-ru-938 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:51AM (#37076896)
I'm sorry but having observed this since 24/02, collective punishment is very much part of the actual Western values.

(Disclaimer: I'm a Russian émigré, not in the West myself but have friends there.)

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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by pphysch on Thursday August 10, 2023 @12:51PM (#37078580)
Ethnic cleansing of North America, Slave codes, yellow peril, Japanese internment, red scare, islamophobia, red scare 2.0 (ongoing), yellow peril 2.0 (ongoing)

And that's just USA.

What is "historically" supposed to mean here?

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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mcpackieh on Thursday August 10, 2023 @03:54PM (#37080932)
> Historically, we don’t do collective punishment

Of course we do. We regularly sanction countries in ways which are designed to pressure the civilian population into overthrowing their government.

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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by oneshtein on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:55AM (#37077813)
What you actually do to protect sacred 1991 borders of Ukraine? Are you helping children, who lost parts of their body, for example?
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:06PM (#37078761)
That was tongue in cheek/sarcasm. I think it's insane people are dying for this.
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by oneshtein on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:27PM (#37079029)
If a killer will break-in a house and kill someone, it's not about doors or walls.
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:10PM (#37079670)
This wasn't a killer that broke in and killed someone.

This was more like going to an old friend and asking for something you left there years ago.

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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mrguyorama on Thursday August 10, 2023 @03:12PM (#37080453)
Oh god no. Ukraine DOES NOT WANT TO BE RUSSIA. They got that experience, it sucked awfully.

This is like an emancipated child being abducted.

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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by throw-ru-938 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @04:22PM (#37081253)
There are people living on that land, it's not a "thing".
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by mcpackieh on Thursday August 10, 2023 @04:34PM (#37081403)
The Russian military are literally killers breaking into Ukraine and killing people.
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by talldatethrow on Friday August 11, 2023 @10:06AM (#37088822)
I'm pretty sure the first shot was fired by Ukrainians.
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Re:The Yandex Leak: How a Russian Search Giant Uses Consumer... by oneshtein on Friday August 11, 2023 @10:34AM (#37089145)
Girkin was first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin
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