Nobody is losing their minds, it's just weird, creepy shit. Especially because "number of sexual partners" generally correlates with age.

Obviously when we talk about the number of sexual partners we mean in regards to the woman's age. It's not the same having had 10 partners are age 40 than at age 20.

I talk about women because I'm a man! Women also select men in other ways. Nothing wrong about it.

Men have preferred non-promiscuous women since the dawn of man, in the same manner women have prefered tall men. Why are men creepy and women not?

Also why can't men prefer younger women in the manner that younger women tend to prefer older established men?

You can prefer what you like. To us what you are saying is a bit creepy.

Simply dismissing something as creepy without providing a explanation strikes me as rather feminine.

If you say so! No skin off my nose :-)

Now that’s creepy lol

This is a big thing in the islamic world, where men want their wives to be virgins. I think this is (perhaps subconsciously) caused by insecurity; "what if the previous guy had a bigger dick than me?".

Let's be honest about double standards here. People are absolutely losing their minds because they feel personally attacked because they are promiscuous.

I'm a woman who married her husband, and was extremely picky about marrying someone who wasn't promiscuous (low number of sexual partners).

I have two sons, and a daughter. As a mother you absolutely see the double standards in a couple ways. Women on tiktok, instagram, and other social media constantly shame men for being under 6 feet. I'm Korean, and I see Asian men being shamed from being under 5'7 in Asian!

Any male preferences get demonized, while female preferences get revered. It makes me worried for my kids. I don't want my daughter to grow up without a grasp on reality, and I don't want my sons being doormats.

> Any male preferences get demonized, while female preferences get revered.

Let's preface with the fact that I am a male.

What I have seen is the complete opposite. We males aren't "demonized" for being promiscuous, quite the opposite in fact. Females are outright called "sluts".

What you see on the internet is a drop in the bucket. Social media will default to exaggerated points of view, because they generate engagement. Kids will outgrow these fake trends at some point.

Women prefer attached/promiscuous men. Women's attraction is largely influenced by social signaling.

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-are-more-attracted-to-...

> Women prefer attached/promiscuous men. Women's attraction is largely influenced by social signaling.

Nowhere in the article says that women prefer "promiscuous" men, but men regarded as "attractive" by other women.

It also does not justify the fact that women are regarded more negatively when they have had multiple sexual partners, compared to men.

> Nowhere in the article says that women prefer "promiscuous" men, but men regarded as "attractive" by other women.

What do women do with the men they are attracted to, generally speaking? Is there anything women could use as a informal gauge as to how attractive other women find any particular man?

> It also does not justify the fact that women are regarded more negatively when they have had multiple sexual partners, compared to men.

Oh OK, so when 5 foot tall women should stop being creepy and preferring men taller than them right? Their preferences are unbalanced and unjustified correct?

> What do women do with the men they are attracted to, generally speaking? Is there anything women could use as a informal gauge as to how attractive other women find any particular man?

Have you even read the article you yourself posted?

> Oh OK, so when 5 foot tall women should stop being creepy and preferring men taller than them right? Their preferences are unbalanced and unjustified correct?

I honestly cannot believe I would have to explain this to a seemingly functional adult.

We are talking about the imbalance in how sexual activity is regarded depending on gender.

Preferring taller or shorter partners is not "creepy", same as in choosing between blondes or brunettes. No one, outside the constant noise that is social media, is going to chastise you for choosing one or another.

Asking about "body count" before dating someone is creepy, because our society regards this as a private matter. Even worse, as I said, men get a pass on this, and women do not.

It blows my mind that anyone would be trying to compare one to another, and even tried to spin it into "promiscuous men are more preferable among women anyway". What the hell?

So its creepy because:

> our society regards this as a private matter.

Why is that? We haven't reach the objective bedrock that opinion is based on yet, we are still in feelings land.

If recounting one's sexual experiences to a stranger for the possibility of becoming their partner, is just "feelings land", then rejecting that person for having too many sexual partners is too, and so is to reject the person who asked how many.

I wonder if you yourself have started any date by saying "I have fucked this many people". After all, it seems only natural that you would lead by example. How has that worked for you so far?

You don't have to ask, I've never asked, behavior is a pretty good indicator and if you are in college or a smaller community word gets around.

Hey man, men rejecting women like that just leaves more for you right? Nobody is stopping you from having a former sex worker as a wife, it's just I and many people like me don't feel lifelong commitment with such a person is worthwhile or desirable.

> ... if you are in college or a smaller community word gets around

Maybe this is the reason I don't get this kind of reactionaryism: I left for college ~25 years ago, and didn't go back to the small town I grew in.

And I'm glad. I could have turned into the same kind of guy who still believes that men can aspire to be players, and women should not.

I don't think they were talking about a specific trait here. It's simply that any filters/preference women have at all are seen as giving power to women. If a male even has preference in race/religion it's seen as close minded. Political views are about the only "good filter", but you're just putting a huge target on your back anyway.

I still don’t get how some men are so keen to be perceived as victims here.

For centuries, the vast majority of women didn’t have the luxury of choosing. To this day, most men still discriminate on the basis on religion, race, or politics when looking for partners.

What are these men complaining about?

> Political views are about the only "good filter", but you're just putting a huge target on your back anyway.

Yes, most women wouldn’t fuck conservatives because they despise their ideals. Perhaps the issue here is the lack of self awareness among conservatives, then.

>I still don’t get how some men are so keen to be perceived as victims here.

I see it less about victims and more about empathy. You can understand the historical burden minorities and women have had and also still sympathize with modern dating scene, for men and women alike.

why is it "weird, creepy shit"? I think it's gross when people sleep around a lot and it's a major turn off. I don't see it as being any worse than finding someone attractive or not based on any other characteristics. At least people can control how much they sleep around; how tall you are is largely out of your hands.

It’s fun to have sex. Glad I could clear this up for you

I never said it wasn't fun, I said it was unattractive. Glad I could clear this up for you.

That's not true at all, I had multitude of friends that had 5-10+ sexual partners at age of 20, I also had friends with 3 sexual partners at age ~25-28. Number of sexual partners correlate with attractiveness and promiscuousness more than age. How is that creepy? Or maybe in which part of the world is it creepy? in your cultural circle? Because in EU where I live nothing about it is creepy. How is creepy to have own preference? I can't have it? It's not like I'm judging someone by their race that they can't change, I'm judging them by their own actions. They choose to behave in certain way, and it's ok, it's their choice to do what they want, but don't tell me I'm creepy because I have my own preferences, I can choose freely too.

You can have your own preferences and other people can find them creepy.

Your right to subjective preferences doesn't invalidate people’s subjective view of those preferences.

Easy to lie about history, hard to lie for long about height.