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Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by ke88y on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:12PM (#36966114)
> Reverend Moon of the Unification Church convinced thousands of idealistic youth to work 20-hour days on starvation rations while he lived in mansions and amassed hundreds of millions of dollars.

It's only a cult because he merely raised hundreds of millions. If he made it to billions it'd be an inspiring business success story.

"Billionaire Bezos' Amazon warehouse employees depend on food stamps in 9 states. The report said 70% of food stamp recipients who work at the United States' second-largest employer and other chain retailers like Walmart work full time."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/4k-bezos-amazon-wareh...

Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by colechristensen on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:15PM (#36966146)
You know those two things aren’t the same, being hyperbolic does not help and no one should be impressed by the snark.
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by swayvil on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:48PM (#36966397)
I think it's a pretty good comparison.
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by worrycue on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:07PM (#36966507)
The relationship between the worker and the organisation is different.

With Amazon it’s purely transactional. Amazon isn’t promising anything but money to their warehouse workers.

With Moon’s cult, the cult defined their follower’s world view.

Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by colechristensen on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:07PM (#36966513)
Then you are stupid. Not being able to tell the difference between brainwashed sleep deprivation working for starvation rations and a mediocre warehouse job is why we still have problems with major labor issues.

You have to be able to recognize the degrees of things and accurately measure problems and improvements.

Hyperbole means nobody that disagrees with you will even spend a second paying attention to you and the people who are on your side are weakened substantially because it’s easy to dismiss them by comparing them to you.

You are not helping. You are the problem.

Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by swayvil on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:15AM (#36971195)
>...you are stupid...

The argument of somebody who is heavily invested.

Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by darkclouds on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:44PM (#36966364)
> It's only a cult because he merely raised hundreds of millions. If he made it to billions it'd be an inspiring business success story.

If he made it to trillions and had millions of followers, he'd be called a president.

If he made it to trillions and had billions of followers, he'd be called Jesus.

Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by Trasmatta on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:57PM (#36966459)
The Mormon church has over $150 billion in assets, and people are very reluctant to call it a cult. But it fits almost all of the criteria.
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by hguant on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:45PM (#36966732)
I disagree. Look at the history of the Mormons - they spent many years getting run out of town because they were a weird cult, culminating with a state sanctioned armed attack and destruction of the principle Mormon settlement (Navoo) and the lynching (to them, martyrdom) of their founder, who was also an elected official and a surprisingly serious presidental candidate. Follow their Exodus to Utah, they very nearly declared themselves to be their own nation and we're engaged in low level fighting with the western US Army until the admission of Utah into the union - which only happened after the Mormons, effectively at gunpoint, declared the more blatant polygamists schismatics and sent them packing to Canada and Mexico.

I'm not a huge fan of the Latter Day Saints, but for a large and important chunk of their religion's existence, they were not only called a cult, but persecuted as one.

Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by initramfs on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:20PM (#36966582)
At least I got a free t-shirt with all the Amazon bucks. ;)