Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by jakeinspace on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @12:41AM
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Sorry, but how does one create a transistor from a superconductor? Maybe I’m missing something here.
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Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by floxy on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @12:57AM
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Most superconducting logic families aren't using transistors at all. They use Josephson junctions, which are just two pieces of superconductor separated by a non-supercondutor. RSFQ (Rapid Single Flux Quantum) uses millivolt-high picosecond-long pulses to represent logic 1 and their absence as logic zero, instead of using voltage level as in CMOS.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/783712 (770 GHz toggle flip-flop in 1999)
https://www.physics.sunysb.edu/Physics/RSFQ/Projects/WhatIs/...
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by Culonavirus on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @01:42AM
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Sooo, a 770 GHz processor? Do I understand it correctly? Jesus.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by yetihehe on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @02:14AM
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If using that flip-flop, whole processor will be closer to 100ghz (typically there are multiple transistors which need to stabilise before you have a result of computation). But probably those superconductors could enable even faster transistors and maybe we could get 1THz processors.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by aitchnyu on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @02:26AM
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Like IDE ribbon cables gave way to sleek SATA cables, we could have another parallel to serial transition from silicon multicore crap to superconducting single core.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by jacquesm on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @02:34AM
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No, you'll get superconducting multicore because all that will happen is that the bloat will expand to consume the new cycle budget. This has already happened many times.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by dtx1 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:35AM
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I'm looking forward to Chromium version 4201337 needing 20% of my 1Thz CPU to render simple text.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by regularfry on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @05:58AM
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We'll get superconducting multicore because as a first step everyone will just map what they already know to the new space. Which is fun.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by MayeulC on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:25AM
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I suspect you'd still need very low temperatures to make this work, even with a high temperature superconductor: low temperatures reduce thermal noise, which may be an issue at such time scales (unless you pump a lot of energy per bit, which means high voltages (limits scaling) or current/capacitances (also limits scaling).
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by jakeinspace on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:12AM
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Are you aware of any obvious issues with manufacturing Josephson junctions using photolithography? Like, would switching to an LK-99 or similar set us back to the 70s in terms of wafer density/size?
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by floxy on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:16AM
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You might be interested is this video, which talks about the EDA issues for RSFQ logic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O6GpFCIxv0
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Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by bpye on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @12:47AM
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I don’t think we’d necessarily have to use it for transistors, but could use it in place of the metal interconnect that is significant in terms of resistive loss.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by peyton on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @12:49AM
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I think Josephson junctions. Also maybe you could eliminate copper loss by using LK-99 interconnect layers.
Re:Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in LK99
by rezonant on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @02:08AM
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Well you can apparently make diodes with them: https://scitechdaily.com/mit-develops-superconducting-device...