The team that did the discovery seems disorganized and amateurish though, and with the multiple papers all submitted at the same time by competing factions, riff with infighting - but they stuck with a hunch for longer than anyone else and followed it doggedly. If it turns out to be true, it will be a great movie with an underdog making of the biggest discoveries of the century.

> but they stuck with a hunch for longer than anyone else and followed it doggedly

That's an understatement.

>discovery seems disorganized and amateurish though, and with the multiple papers all submitted at the same time by competing factions, riff with infighting - but they stuck with a hunch for longer than anyone else and followed it doggedly.

Pretty good description of all of human history so far, to be fair

Did you read some that said they were amturish or did you actually think that

They are not well polished academia types who publish a couple papers or more per year using their students. I have some friends who do that, they get multiple papers accepted at top conferences every year and make increment progress on a regular basis. These guys are completely against the type here. Off in their own lab with no publications in years, having trouble raising money to fund their research, shifting to part time, then bringing in collaborators merely to get money, their attempt at publication is a mess as a result. Yes, compared to normal academia, they are amateurs or at least idiosyncratic weirdos.

I'm rooting for them, do not get me wrong, but they are not normal academics.

My concern is they are doing this to get funding as the material maybe close but not yet there

Their amateurishness and the infighting somehow makes me think this is legitimate.

Was wondering why it doesn’t sound surprising and then remembered that squid game is also Korean. Puzzles immediately fell into place.

The infighting does for me. It smells of "holy shit we did it" followed immediately by scrambling to publish and doing it hours apart.

Gives me hope, for I want to believe.