Note that the reason fruits nowadays are so sweet is because of artificial selection done over millenia - fruits thousands of years ago barely resembled the fruits that we eat today. [0] "Natural" fruit was originally absolute shit for human consumption, so humans have cultivated it until it became abnormally large and rich with sugars. (And orange juice is no more healthier than other competing sugar-fueled junk foods - they all have the dangerously high diabetes-inducing sugar content, and it's not good for your health!)

Don't care if we're using the good-old "manual pollination" technique or high-tech genetic modification - the fact that the crops we eat has been modified extensively until it doesn't resemble the original has been true for the whole existence of human civilization. Nowadays what people call natural "real" food is just a simulacra - a copy of a real thing that doesn't exist anymore. I think people should be more willing to accept this reality if we're going to survive the Anthropocene (with all that climate change jazz) - we as a species have always changed and terraformed Earth and its various flora/fauna throughout millenia, and there is no going back to its original "real" state anymore.

[0] https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2014/10/infographic-the-drastic...

After humanity dies off or is moribund from the catastrophic effects of global warming, Earth, and its various remaining flora/fauna will revert back to a more natural state, until, after a millennia of healing, it gets unperverted by humanity's touch, and grain and fruit is once again, terrible for human consumption. Which would matter, if there were humans left.

Suicide and omnicide are for the death cult fatalists and the terrorists.

Everyone else I know wants to change things and live.

Sugar is where the body gets energy. Obviously people growing crops for food favor crops that provide the same amount of energy for less work and land.

Orange juice has the exact same amount of sugar as coke, volume for volume.

Juice is not a healthy choice in anyway that really matters and you will get diabetes from it.

Look again. OJ has more calories per unit volume. 13.75 kcal / oz vs. 11.66.

Are you talking about home pressed orange juice or the tetrapaks?

Both. Doesn't matter how you make it: juice is pure sugar.

The Europeans that I know that moved to US always complain about the bread. They can't find any decent bread that isn't sweetened.

Bread is flour, yeast and water. If you add sugar it's brioche.