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Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by valine on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:53PM (#36916708)
It’s not over until multiple labs fail to reproduce it. A definitive no will take months.
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by rendang on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:19AM (#36916856)
Unless in the meantime the authors realize they made some mistake in their analysis & retract their claims.
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by zarzavat on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:28AM (#36916929)
Even if it doesn’t turn out to be a superconductor, it is at least strongly diamagnetic, so it opens avenues for future research either way. There’s a potential scenario here where this doesn’t turn out to be a superconductor, but it nonetheless leads to a superconductor further down the line.
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by XorNot on Saturday July 29, 2023 @03:36AM (#36917828)
The one wrinkle here is if the sample we saw actually was pyrolytic carbon and someone simply mislabeled a vial when looking for something to shoot the video with.

At the extreme end of big news, stupid things can happen (I've worked in a lab: people suck at labelling things they make).

Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by jtriangle on Saturday July 29, 2023 @03:55AM (#36917943)
If it is pyrolytic carbon, they've somehow significantly enhanced the dimagnetism of it, which is remarkable. Usually that stuff only barely floats, and only when it is very thin.
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by willis936 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:31PM (#36924246)
Where would this carbon come from? I think being able to produce an element out of thin air is more impressive than STP superconductors.
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by carabiner on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:56PM (#36916731)
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by Animats on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:34AM (#36917261)
> It’s not over until multiple labs fail to reproduce it. A definitive no will take months.

Yes. Some may remember the problems with cold fusion. I once went to a packed talk at Stanford where some physicists and chemists were trying to reproduce the effect. They mentioned that in the first attempts, they had radiation alarms set up in case the thing suddenly started emitting substantial amounts of radiation. After a while, it became clear that the effect, if it existed at all, was small, somewhere below twice background radiation, so it wasn't high risk. They discovered that people moving around the apparatus affected the results; humans have a lot of water and are neutron reflectors. Finally they did the experiment inside a "neutron cube", a box made of lead bricks, to eliminate stray neutrons. No neutron generation measured inside the cube.

They worked hard for months getting to a definitive "no".

Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by xorbax on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:59AM (#36917363)
Right. But this is social-media science, so there needs to be an answer by Saturday or - at worst - Sunday.

Entertain our sudden fickle intellect! We're paying attention now, so you should all hop to, regardless of theory or evidence!

Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by lordnacho on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:15AM (#36918372)
But would a yes be immediately obvious? Is there a test for superconductivity that doesn't easily show false positives?
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by konschubert on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:54PM (#36922107)
This feels wrong. The burden of proof should be on the one making the extraordinary claims.
Re:Argonne National Lab is attempting to replicate LK-99 by krashnburn200 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:15PM (#36922348)
They are literally willing to mail out samples of their claimed superconducting material to labs for independent testing and verification.

Exactly how much more proof than "Here, have a super conductor we made" do you want exactly?

The only thing required is a little patience.