How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my container”

Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by transcriptase on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:06AM (#36888776)

Another decade or two and perhaps the Unix community will finally reinvent the .exe or .app

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Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by coderenegade on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:28AM (#36888924)

It's more than just creating a distributable, though. It's also a dev fixed environment and a cross-compiler when paired with qemu, and a test suite all rolled into one. It's hugely powerful for how simple it is.

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Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by paulddraper on Thursday July 27, 2023 @01:07AM (#36889153)

That's just.......wrong.

MacOS makes static linking quite difficult.

And Windows is infamous for "DLL Hell."

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Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by pjmlp on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:51AM (#36889884)

Windows 9X/2000/NT was long time ago, nowadays that it more a GNU/Linux problem than Windows one.

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Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by nerdponx on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:27AM (#36889699)

It's more like chroot, with a special namespace for processes.

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Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by hughesjj on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:34AM (#36889753)

They did, many times. they're called flatpaks/snaps/self executing zip files.

Even windows reinvented the exe with msi's, and python has dists and wheels, and *nix/bsd has jails and vms have existed forever, and java has the jvm with jars and previously, applets.

Of course, none of those are actually as user friendly nor cross platform compatible as docker. Heck even docker isn't perfect and will leak abstractions once you start hitting syscalls (network, filesystem, etc), or if you're like 99.9...% of developers who don't host their own artifactory and cryptographically tag every step in their dockerfile

Show me an .exe that can self deploy an elk stack across windows, Darwin, and Linux with minimal system environment issues

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Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by KronisLV on Thursday July 27, 2023 @06:46AM (#36891668)

> They did, many times. they're called flatpaks/snaps/self executing zip files.

Honestly, getting some desktop software in the form of one of those is wonderfully refreshing. Just take an AppImage file or whatever, make it executable and run it.

Sometimes you don't care about the benefits of shared libraries and want something to just run regardless of what's going on with your distro, for which these technologies are great. Ideally, in addition to the proper package manager approach for those that value different things at different times.

But for shipping things like WebApps, OCI containers and Docker/Podman is amazing.

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Re:How “It works in my machine” turns to “It works in my con... by hughesjj on Friday August 04, 2023 @07:09PM (#37007039)

I was a huge fan of portable apps back in the day. Plug in a usb stick, and boom, I could use firefox on my school computer instead of ie6

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