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Re:Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit ... by DenisM on Sunday July 23, 2023 @04:14PM (#36839348)
>back then it wasn’t clear that we’d ever be able to have maps at our fingertips regardless of internet access. This was back in the era of that poor CNET reporter that got lost with his family in the mountains precisely because of no maps

That was 2007. I had maps of the entire US loaded on my pocket pc circa 2005.

Re:Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit ... by brightlancer on Sunday July 23, 2023 @04:33PM (#36839529)
> I had maps of the entire US loaded on my pocket pc circa 2005.

How much did that cost? How many folks had it? When did it stop getting updates?

Most folks (likely including GP) didn't have easy access to offline electronic maps in their pocket in 2007 and didn't know anyone who had offline electronic maps in their pocket.

Does that make them stupid?

Re:Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit ... by DenisM on Sunday July 23, 2023 @04:42PM (#36839622)
> How much did that cost?

$100 for the maps, available to anyone with a pocket pc and access to Google.

Re:Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit ... by sgath92 on Sunday July 23, 2023 @04:48PM (#36839675)
2008 I had a totally offline map of all of North America in my car's aftermarket radio (7" touch screen, AM/FM, DVD player, GPS, analog TV, SD slot, all running a version of WindowsCE that was already outdatted). System cost me about $400. Bought it so I could do backroads road trips/exploring by car, as it didn't need (or even have) a way to connect to the 'net to do it. I can still get updated maps for it, but I don't bother.

Handheld gps's with offline maps go back even further. I was using them from '03 to '08. Garmin made a bunch of ones that were no bigger than a early-gen blackberry. Back then it was relatively easy to get pirated updated maps for them.

Re:Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit ... by tguvot on Sunday July 23, 2023 @05:35PM (#36840098)
i traveled across europe in car at same time frame with pocket pc (asus mypal) and igo maps loaded on it (still have it in my drawer). those days you can get igo offline maps on android. also sygic.

it was always strange that google maps was accepted as some kind of magic while turn by turn navigation with voice directions was available from mid 2000s

those days i always have sygic installed on my phone. came handy when google maps decided to freak out while i was driving through death valley to gas station.

Re:Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit ... by tomcam on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:01PM (#36840322)
> turn by turn navigation with voice directions was available from mid 2000s

Did those turn by turn systems allow you to just drag the map onscreen anywhere to change location to anyplace on earth? To drop pins and send links to anyone in an email? To be updated instantly and for free when the data was refreshed?

Re:Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit ... by tguvot on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:23PM (#36840529)
>Did those turn by turn systems allow you to just drag the map onscreen anywhere to change location to anyplace on earth?

as long as you had maps installed for this area - yes

>To drop pins and send links to anyone in an email? yea. multi-point navigation with ability to search along the route/in the area/specific city/etc. all without breaking route. you could also save route iirc. i had 2 weeks road trip pre-planned.

there was some ability to share route/coordinates. don't remember details

> To be updated instantly and for free when the data was refreshed? back than maps weren't updated that frequently. in general.

on the other side, it gave you ability to go anywhere without having a data connection. google offline maps are still very limited. igo was showing on screen next two maneuvers back than. google still didn't figure it out. or ability to show real 3D landscape and 3D landmarks/buildings. or ability to mark street as blocked so navigation will route around. getting traffic information from radio in case there is no internet.