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Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by meibo on Sunday July 23, 2023 @08:20AM (#36834669)
That just sounds like a normal day of interacting with basic German IT infrastructure. It's all the same.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by andersa on Sunday July 23, 2023 @09:06AM (#36834950)
My personal favorite is the website for reporting large international transactions, which can only be using during regular working hours on weekdays.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by scanny on Sunday July 23, 2023 @02:06PM (#36837968)
What exactly is that? Is it for moving savings from a non-eu country into Germany ?
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by andersa on Sunday July 23, 2023 @03:20PM (#36838722)
This thingy: https://extranet.bundesbank.de/ams

How they describe it: https://www.bundesbank.de/en/service/reporting-systems/exter...

Any single transaction exceeding 12500€ entering (or leaving) Germany has to be manually reported here. So for example if you're living in Germany and working remotely as a contractor for a US based company you'll probably have to report your income every month.

There are many exceptions that don't need manual reporting though, like if you're buying physical goods from overseas. I guess those are already automatically tracked through other ways.

For fun, I just tried to login at ~9:30 PM local time on a Sunday, and it said:

"Access Denied"

"You cannot access the resource you have requested at this time."

"The resource you have requested is protected by a policy restricting access to specific time periods. Your request has occured outside of those permitted time periods."

Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by pimeys on Sunday July 23, 2023 @03:41PM (#36838965)
For some of us, using a middle company such as Deel might be a good idea. They take some money for that, but you get a real German contract and don't have to care dealing with the local bureaucracy.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by tentacleuno on Sunday July 23, 2023 @08:30PM (#36841550)
> This thingy: https://extranet.bundesbank.de/ams

My favourite thing on that website is the script block inside a noscript tag that they actually expect to run. Things like that tend to suggest the developers have absolutely no idea how to code for a web browser.

Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by jarym on Thursday July 27, 2023 @08:25AM (#36892396)
That's one way to implement a feature flag I guess, not the way many sane people would choose.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by FirmwareBurner on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:26AM (#36835589)
Germany, IT superpower by 2030. /s
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by FreshStart on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @12:16PM (#36864673)
Year of the lynux desktop
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by lobsterthief on Sunday July 23, 2023 @11:23AM (#36836196)
To be honest, average American IT infrastructure is the same; the larger the business, the worse it seems to be. Large tech companies like Google are outliers.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by lopatin on Sunday July 23, 2023 @12:04PM (#36836612)
I bank with Chase and the app is really good. Are there major US banks with crappy apps?
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by cebert on Sunday July 23, 2023 @02:15PM (#36838063)
PNC Bank’s mobile app and website are pretty bad. The only reason I haven’t switched is due to friction and because I have my mortgage with them. The website won’t work unless I allow 3rd party scripts from Adobe to run. The UX is terrible too.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by doubleg72 on Sunday July 23, 2023 @09:34PM (#36842015)
Odd.. I use PNC website and app regularly and my one complaint is how difficult it is to find my account number. No need for third party scripts.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by paradox242 on Sunday July 23, 2023 @02:55PM (#36838476)
I was pretty impressed with the internal IT situation working at JPMC. It's not perfect, but reading this about Deutsche Bank I can see what the alternative is and it's rightfully horrifying.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by prmph on Sunday July 23, 2023 @08:10PM (#36841422)
Can second this. I'm not even living in the US any longer, and yet I have never had an instance where the Chase website or app failed to provide a wanted service or work as expected. Their I.T, at least from the customer point of view, seems top notch.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by drewda on Sunday July 23, 2023 @12:09PM (#36836669)
Last I heard, Google staff use Concur to handle travel... there's no escaping SAP (and similarly frustrating enterprise software) in large corporations, even FAANG ones.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by FirmwareBurner on Sunday July 23, 2023 @02:34PM (#36838254)
>Google staff use Concur to handle travel

I mean what else would they use?

Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by dacryn on Sunday July 23, 2023 @04:49PM (#36839684)
Zoho? Airbase? Rydoo?
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by FirmwareBurner on Sunday July 23, 2023 @05:29PM (#36840038)
Nobody got fired for using Concur
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by emeril on Sunday July 23, 2023 @07:23PM (#36841058)
maybe so but they took like a month to call me back about an implementation and I ended up using Certify at my company

works okay but the credit card integration is a complete sh*t show

Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by dmvdoug on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:04PM (#36840348)
Is SAP good at anything aside from locking customers in? I ask this seriously because I am an outsider on this, but I have never heard a single good thing about SAP. NOT ONE.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by housemusicfan on Sunday July 23, 2023 @12:14PM (#36836718)
Rather, the large tech companies are some of the worst offenders, but it's coupled with egregious arrogance and a self-held belief that they're better and smarter than everyone else. Google is in an even more unique position as they can bully their way around the internet by breaking and influencing standards at their whims. Ever tried to get support from Google? Go ahead, I'll wait.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by jiggawatts on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:43PM (#36840735)
That’s a conspiracy theory.

Reality is much mundane and boring: the person writing the web app has no vested interest in the app actually providing a good service for customers. His or her boss doesn’t care either.

It’s simple disinterest: the self-interests of the coders are too far removed from the interests of the customers.

If you’re a solo dev working on a startup and every lost customer is money gone from your pocket, you will pay attention to every little detail.

If you’re a cog in a giant soulless machine, you do the bare minimum and go home.

Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by cscurmudgeon on Sunday July 23, 2023 @03:33PM (#36838865)
Have you used Bank of America’s app? It is quite good.
Re:Deutsche Bank's “dysfunctional” IT division (2018) by dmvdoug on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:03PM (#36840338)
Not just business. My dad worked for the FBI in IT for about 15 years after he retired from the military. The stories he can tell….