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Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by detourdog on Thursday July 20, 2023 @09:31AM (#36800174)
I don't understand the pre-amble always thought Dr. Pepper tasted like cherry cola?

Maybe it's Vanilla Cola.

Mastery is made of intuition and practice, but secret sauce is inherently unintuitive.

I think it's unintuitive to the outside world and very intuitive to the creator.

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by k__ on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:04AM (#36800614)
Isn't Dr. Pepper simply off-brand cola with almond syrup?
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by randdusing on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:26AM (#36800957)
Dr Pepper was introduced before Coca Cola.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by k__ on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:17AM (#36801761)
One more reason why it couldn't be on-brand.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by detourdog on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:37PM (#36803074)
That I think is the point being the first recognized commercial soda defines the category. I didn't get it from the preamble because I wasn't aware of Dr. Pepper's iconic status.

I usually drink water flavored seltzer but I'm going to have a Dr. Pepper today.

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by technothrasher on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:20PM (#36802794)
Huh, only by five months. Dr Pepper was officially sold starting on Dec 1, 1885, Coke on May 8th, 1886.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by toast0 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:28AM (#36801965)
IMHO as a soda drinker with discerning taste, Dr. Pepper is kind of its own category, but more root beer adjacent than cola adjacent.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by k__ on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:24PM (#36802857)
Good point.

Root beer isn't a thing here, so I don't had a reference.

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by detourdog on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:35PM (#36803036)
Anybody willing to make that claim has my attention.

Do you think it is different than Mr. Pibb? Do you think it is like cherry Coke?

Having developed some in Pennsylvania Dutch country I have to ask what about Birch Beer?

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by toast0 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:56PM (#36803356)
Mr Pibb/Pibb Xtra is in the same category as Dr Pepper, IMHO and Coke had originally named it Peppo to target the Dr Pepper market; incidentally Pepsi doesn't have anything in the "pepper-drink" category). I don't have a lot lot of familiarity with Pibb, because this category isn't something I desire very often, and Pibb availability is generally low; but next time I see it, if it's not one of the hideous Coke Freestyle machines where the flavors come out of inkjet cartridges, I'll give it a try and update my references. There's some similarity in initial flavor to cherry Coke, but you know, there's cherry Dr Pepper out there too, and that's distinguishable from regular Dr Pepper.

I must admit I haven't had birch beer; but I'll try it when I see it too. :)

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by detourdog on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:22PM (#36803694)
Yes, I assumed that Pep- was similar to -ito in the salty snack category.

The untrained pallet might compare birch beer to toothpaste.

I thought of cherry Dr. Pepper as just more cherry.

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by gowld on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:14PM (#36803580)
Funny that PEPsi missed the PEPper drink market.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by earthling8118 on Saturday July 22, 2023 @10:47AM (#36826661)
Pibb isn't bad but it certainly isn't in the same category as Dr Pepper. They aren't even remotely the same
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by toast0 on Sunday July 23, 2023 @02:06AM (#36832932)
Well... I had some with dinner tonight, and I disagree. It's definitely distinguishable, and as a sibling mentioned Pibb is a lot more sugary, but it tastes pretty similar to Dr Pepper to me.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by bamfly on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:57PM (#36804200)
Pibb used to be cherry-forward, smoother-drinking Dr Pepper (nb I preferred Dr Pepper).

Pibb Xtra is mostly just SUGAR punching you in the taste buds.

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by ink_13 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:33AM (#36801072)
Dr Pepper was formulated to taste the way Morrison's Old Corner Drug Store in Waco TX smelled in the early 1880s. It's not supposed to taste of anything identifiable.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by detourdog on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:40AM (#36801159)
It definitely has notes of horse or barn.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by technothrasher on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:08PM (#36802621)
Where did you get that info from? You made me curious, so I tried to dig in a bit. The entire early history seems a little murky when you push past the 'official' story and try to find evidence. But even so, I couldn't find anything at all referencing what the flavor was intended to be. I was trying to find Morrison's original patent from ~1885 to see what it had in it, but couldn't dig it up.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by detourdog on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:30PM (#36802951)
I also found a the true story they didn't mention it. Most of the "true stories" seems to be the struggle for credit.

The early drug store/soda fountain days seem pretty wild. People were freely mixing up drugs and sugar water.

The early seeds of RiteAid originated in a small central PA. town. Think about all the derivative business spun out of drug store plus soda fountain.

Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by technothrasher on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:50PM (#36803272)
The most questionable part of the "true story" to me was that the soda was named after Dr. Charles T. Pepper because Morrison was in love with his daughter. According to census data, Dr. Pepper's daughter was 5 years old when Morrison was 17 and lived in the same town, and there's no record of Morrison having worked for Dr. Pepper as claimed or having known him at all. But there was another Dr. Pepper who lived a couple houses down from Morrison when he was 17 who had a 16 year old daughter at the time.
Re:Spoil Your Secret Sauce by sph on Friday July 21, 2023 @02:04AM (#36810502)
In fact, Dr. Pepper tastes like Amarena cherry, which is a taste a bit more common in Italy that I haven't found abroad: it's often found in ice creams and other confectionery as a darker, slightly sour cherry.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarena_cherry