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Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by LatteLazy on Thursday July 20, 2023 @08:14AM (#36799392)
There is a very long list if you search linked in.

Personally, would you:

* move to Pheonix

* do shift work

* complete a special local college course at your own expense

* to work for a company with notoriously demanding standards for staff

and there are no salaries listed as far as I see...

Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by sschueller on Thursday July 20, 2023 @08:33AM (#36799571)
What kind of garbage output can we expect from such labor abuse? Even with testing and all those processes this has to increase costs?

Looking forward to my nvidea GPU failing a week into use...

Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by itake on Thursday July 20, 2023 @08:49AM (#36799703)
That’s what they currently do in their Tainan, Taiwan factory. I thought they were known for good quality chips?
Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by m00x on Thursday July 20, 2023 @05:32PM (#36807025)
Yes, it's not an issue with the management style, but the high expectation of working conditions of the American worker.

While the whole world is busting their ass, they're hooked on 9-5s.

Tesla is a great example of a manufacturer that pays top dollar and gets back top-quality work.

Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by mcpeepants on Thursday July 20, 2023 @08:06PM (#36808476)
> top-quality work

Why are they rated so poorly for initial quality?

Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by m00x on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:38PM (#36809398)
They started a car company from scratch, it's not an easy feat.

The build quality isn't at par with the rest of the manufacturers, but the drivetrain and batteries are by far the best.

(disclaimer: I own a Ford Mach-e and tried all the Teslas)

Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by red-iron-pine on Friday July 21, 2023 @12:52PM (#36816240)
So they're a battery company that makes average cars
Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by sschueller on Friday July 21, 2023 @02:11AM (#36810547)
"high expectation of working conditions"

Working conditions in the Unites States are quite bad compared to some other places in the world. "At will" employment, wages so low that tips are required to offset them etc. I can go on and on. Just take a read in /r/antiwork/ at reddit. A lot of those things are even illegal but people don't even bother anymore to report them.

We are at a point in time where we have the luxury to improve working conditions and not go back to basically slavery. The issue is we are enriching the rich instead of those that are doing the hard labor.

We have the whole thing backwards, actual labor should be rewarded the most as it takes that one thing away from us that we have a limit resource of which is time.

If we don't strive to improve our lives then what is the point? Work and die to make the life for a few excessively luxurious?

Re:TSMC delays U.S. chip plant start to 2025 due to labor sh... by m00x on Thursday July 20, 2023 @05:16PM (#36806853)
Yes, and we should encourage people to go in this direction instead of becoming influencers, Youtubers, and models.

The West needs to start building again or it will become an extinct empire.