Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by franciscop on Thursday July 20, 2023 @08:02AM
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At least in Spain we have multiple ways of batter-fry our food, which are simply different and not "wrong" per se. For example with calamari you can have them "calamares rebozados"[1] vs "calamares a la romana"[2], which are two very different styles of doing it. And then even within those there are variations ofc. While Japanese Tempura is very homogeneous on its style all across, like most of Japanese food (quality might vary a lot, but cooking styles usually don't).
Then there is the point of oil, while we'd normally use olive oil in Spain, it's crazy expensive in Japan so surely they use other oils, which also change the taste and very likely make it feel lighter.
[1] https://content-cocina.lecturas.com/medio/2021/06/09/calamar...
[2] https://cdn3.misrecetascaseras.com/sites/default/files/style...
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by unwind on Thursday July 20, 2023 @09:13AM
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Do you deep fry in olive oil?
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by franciscop on Thursday July 20, 2023 @09:43AM
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Of course, that's how e.g. Spanish omelette is done and how it gets part of its taste.
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by scythe on Thursday July 20, 2023 @09:44AM
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There is a grade of olive oil — "extra light" — which is very good for deep frying. The darker stuff popular on salads won't work so well.
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by VoodooJuJu on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:22AM
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I appreciate the Westernized version more for being delicious while eschewing the decadence, wastefulness, and snobbery of the Japanese version.
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by mc32 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:29AM
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Fast food places in Japan are like fast food places in other places. They don’t make the snobby versions.
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by mixmastamyk on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:25AM
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There’s great Japanese food in Los Angeles (and presumably other pacific cities).
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by wahnfrieden on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:34PM
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Always old oil, wrong temp, wrong oils / bad oil blends, less regional variety as seen in Japan. Tempura in North America is dire. I’ve eaten at many Michelin tempura exclusive restaurants
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by morsch on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:17PM
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You're saying there's not just one but multiple fine dining restaurants that exclusively serve (bad) tempura and you've sought them out?
Re:Glossary of Japanese words of Portuguese origin
by wahnfrieden on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:39PM
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no just a qualifier on personal experience eating around japan. there are almost no michelin starred tempura restaurants in north america, like 2 total in the US. the tempura places in toronto are all bad so i stopped going.
That is true. Although to experience the real thing you really have to be in Japan.
Sadly the Westernised versions of Tempura are more often than not massacred imitations.
The most common errors in the West are that the batter is wrong or, the most common of all faults ... the oil is old.
With true Tempura in Japan, the oil is frequently refreshed during the course of service and in addition is not shared with other deep fried foods. Both of which actions serve to maintain the delicate taste and texture of true Tempura.
Sadly in the West (if you're lucky !) the chef will simply dump the Tempura in the same deep-fat fryer that he's been using all day to fry god knows what else.