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Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by Night_Thastus on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:21AM (#36773953)
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to have multiple tabs open that doesn't really have to do with "hoarding".

For games, I often have a bunch of wiki tabs open at the same time.

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by grogenaut on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:29AM (#36774081)
For me I just type titles or word back into the browser bar and Firefox searches history. How are you searching/navigating to find the right tab of several hundred to go back to that tab?
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by SomeHacker44 on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:34AM (#36774170)
Too many sites have useless titles, or URLs that if you go back to you don't get to the same state you had when you closed the window. So, I find that history is for the most part useless. Sometimes it works - but not reliably.
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by sundarurfriend on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:21PM (#36774999)
Vimium - press shift-T - search among all page titles and URLs of open tabs.
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by grogenaut on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @05:35PM (#36779397)
Why is that better than searching history or bookmarks?
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by sundarurfriend on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @02:11AM (#36782664)
Bookmarks are long-term useful things to keep saved, and don't serve the same purpose as these open tabs.

As for history, imagine you're researching a topic and have gone through fifteen search results, decided three of them were relevant, and closed the others. Your history is polluted with all fifteen, whereas this tab search will directly return you these most relevant pages only.

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by beltsazar on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:33PM (#36775229)
You can also search open tabs in the address bar: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/address-bar-autocomplet...

I hardly use it, though, because I usually have < 100 open tabs, not thousands like others have. I identify tabs by their tree structures (parents, children, siblings tabs) and the prefixes of the titles, whose lengths don't depend on how many tabs opened, because the tabs are arranged vertically.

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by manuelmoreale on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:45AM (#36774358)
A bunch is reasonable but I’ve seen people here on HN claim to have multiple windows with thousand of tabs on them. That is beyond comprehension for me but if it works for them that’s awesome.
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by Night_Thastus on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:47AM (#36774393)
Oh, yeah thousands seems like a lot. But I'm not sure, maybe there's a workflow where that makes sense.
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by TeMPOraL on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:36PM (#36775275)
One thing I've noticed since I started using Sideberry extension (a different/better take on Tree Style Tabs) is that after a day or two, the whole tab panel I separated specifically for HN tends to accumulate 100+ tabs. Having them laid out vertically in tiny font makes this apparent in a way that the regular tab bar doesn't.

Fortunately, I also habituated the simple behavior of "If I realize I have a lot of HN tabs open, right-click and close the entire pane". That's how I know I'm clocking about 100 tabs per two days on HN alone.

Also, Sideberry changed my tab hoarding habit in a way that still results in keeping hundreds of tabs, but using them in much more sensible way. I keep them arranged in trees stemming from topical groups on high-level panels, and trim or kill as they're no longer useful. Most of those tabs are unloaded anyway, but the interface works as excellent short-term (days to weeks, sometimes a few months) bookmarking system - and I don't lose tabs anymore (as in knowing the tab is there somewhere, but not being able to find it in the vast sea of other tabs).

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by beltsazar on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:52PM (#36775552)
What makes Sidebery better than TST? I'm consider trying it, but I don't want to lose all of my TST tabs.
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by TeMPOraL on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:08PM (#36775839)
Honestly, I don't remember. A year ago when I was considering going back to vertical tabs, I read a bunch of discussion thread and articles, and got the impression Sideberry might be better. Tried it, and it resonates with me - unlike TST, which I tried and quickly abandoned several times over the year.

Can't really point to any concrete issue, other than I have a distinct feeling Sideberry is much faster/lighter, and feels more like part of Firefox vs. some bunch of JS faking an UI on top of it. Sorry I can't give you a more objective comparison. I did find this though:

https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/118ddge/tab_manage...

which is a recent(ish) discussion, and the points made there seem accurate.

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by accoil on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @06:10PM (#36779753)
I switched to Sidebery a couple of months ago, and I find that it's somewhat better at restoring trees (though that could just be luck). I feel it's a bit more responsive, but these days I trim my tabs a bit more aggresive than I used to so my TST memories are somewhat biased.

I was surprised at how decent it converted TST tabs, but I can't remember how low my bar was; maybe try a new profile?

One thing I'm finding really nice in Sidebery though that TST can't do, is that I can create a parent node that is not attached to a specific page (via grouping).

Panels I'm undecided on. They seem useful, but they also seem like a bandaid over window management tools. One problem I'm having is that they don't restore, and all the tabs go back to the main panel. That may be some setting I toggled though.

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by reciprocity on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @08:45PM (#36780886)
I haven't been able to find a single differentiator between the two add-ons in my experience using them.
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:04PM (#36775760)
Sideberry FTW. Sideberry tab panels FTWW.

Except for the annoying interaction (I think) with "open new tabs next to current tab", which causes Sideberry to somehow leave behind lots of stupid empty tabs named after the page the real new tab had. I deal with it, but it's annoying.

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by TeMPOraL on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:13PM (#36775917)
Oh, I'm yet to hit that problem. My current annoyance is that sometimes it gets confused after Firefox restarts, and I end up with a flat dump of tabs + an unending spam of those tiny warning popups at the bottom of its UI. The few times that happened, I ended up restarting Firefox again to stop the warnings, and then rearranging the flat list of tabs into groups and panels I want them to be in. Fortunately, it's not that big of a chore.
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by TremendousJudge on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:14PM (#36774862)
You end up using them as bookmarks of some sort, especially with the search bar doubling as tab search
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by entropicdrifter on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:40PM (#36775331)
I'm convinced that a significant proportion of people today don't use bookmarks and have never leveraged their power because they grew up with tabs and never bothered to explore their other options for organizing websites.

You can save all of the tabs of your current session as a bookmark folder in one fell swoop! Your research tabs can be all saved together and opened as a group! Your gift ideas that you won't close because you don't want to forget about them can be saved in a folder named gift ideas so the next time you need them you have them, without the cost of using up your extra RAM and CPU cycles!

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by Night_Thastus on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:31PM (#36776257)
On modern browsers, don't unused/old tabs take up basically no resources?

I remember both Chrome and FF making a big deal over that point years ago.

Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by seba_dos1 on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @02:11PM (#36776893)
There were extensions for it more than a decade ago already, but these days it is indeed the regular out-of-box behavior (though Chrome got it only a few months ago IIRC).
Re:Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer by jeltz on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @03:44AM (#36783210)
Nah, I grew up with bookmarks and was constantly annoyed at the terrible UI for them and then when tabs got good enough I stopped using bookmarks since the default bookmarks UI is terrible.