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Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by neom on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:18PM (#36763476)
List of things known by the state of California to cause cancer:

https://oehha.ca.gov/media/downloads/proposition-65/p65chemi...

Funnily, Aspartame isn't on there but Aloe vera is... O.o

(my fav is wood dust)

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by petsfed on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:29PM (#36763617)
I mean, wood dust is no joke. Because of its size, you can end up with micro wounds all throughout the respitory system, and those in turn act as something like a nucleation site for infections and cancer. If you're doing a lot of sanding or running a lathe or mill, you can lose decades of your life by not using proper dust control schemes.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by graypegg on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:37PM (#36763720)
It’s also explosive just to add to the fun.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by touisteur on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:45PM (#36763809)
And some woods are poisonous (rosewood for example) to begin with.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by sandworm101 on Monday July 17, 2023 @05:50PM (#36764564)
And some non-poisonous woods are treated with various chemicals and glues that are themselves separate dangers.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by hunson_abadeer on Monday July 17, 2023 @06:02PM (#36764679)
It's actually not that black and white. Wood dust is linked to a statistically significant increase in the occurrence of a very rare nasal cancer. But the thing is, in woodworkers and in the general population alike, it's still a very rare cancer. You're orders of magnitude more likely to die of other cancers, whether you work with wood or not. This should be way, way down your list of risks.

There is a simpler reason to avoid wood dust: it causes allergies, asthma, and other non-cancer respiratory issues in a fair number of people.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by DannyBee on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:27PM (#36766142)
Yes. IPF and friends are more of a death sentence than nasal cancer. Nasal cancer at least has a meaningful treatment outside of "double lung transplant" (which itself only has like 50-60% 5 year survival rate, and is essentially unavailable to most people with IPF due to age).

I'm aware of the stage 3 pipeline for IPF. I would still rather have cancer in most cases.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by gymbeaux on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:16PM (#36766982)
IPF = Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by fomine3 on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:17PM (#36766993)
I don't know why people so much care about cancer than other illness/injury. Why is a dedicated cancer insurance a thing? Is there any historical reason?
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by OJFord on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:36PM (#36767514)
Never heard of it before, but I would guess almost certainly due to exclusions in non-specific policies.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by euroderf on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @03:38AM (#36769103)
> nucleation site for infections and cancer.

Asbestos is like that. It's not inherently carcinogenic, but there is some kind of mechanical process associated with asbestos fibers that activates cancer.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by BaculumMeumEst on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:33PM (#36763671)
(you really shouldn’t breathe wood dust)
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by sandworm101 on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:28PM (#36763597)
Fine point: that is the list of substances that cause cancer, which is a more narrow set than "things" that cause cancer. The number one thing that increases a person's risk of cancer is age. After age, physical and genetic dispositions (aka family history) are also "things" that elevate cancer risks.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by gymbeaux on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:17PM (#36766996)
“Age” is more like “time spent exposed to carcinogens”
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by jansan on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:48PM (#36763852)
So is Testosterone. And Titanium dioxide, which is one of the main ingredients of almost every wall paint.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by zdragnar on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:58PM (#36765860)
You don't have much to worry about from wall paint as long as you aren't sanding or eating it.

OTOH, it is a very economical colorant, so it is in a ton of foods (FDA still has it approved under 1% by weight of the food item), toothpaste, makeup, skin creams, white tattoo ink, and so on.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by eropple on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:48PM (#36763862)
Wood dust is absolutely not something to mess with. Chips - what most people think of as "sawdust" - aren't the scary part. The scary part is the too-small-to-see stuff that has a physical structure remarkably similar to a number of things that are extremely Not Good To Breathe.

Also, as a sibling notes, the stuff (chips and dust alike) can contribute to some really memorable conflagratory experiences.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by DicIfTEx on Monday July 17, 2023 @05:53PM (#36764590)
There used to be a site that listed everything that the Daily Mail (a low-quality British newspaper) had claimed could cause or prevent cancer (and often both): http://wordpress.mrreid.org/2009/09/07/kill-or-cure/

Now all I can find is this partial list: https://www.anorak.co.uk/288298/tabloids/the-daily-mails-lis...

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by dylan604 on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:06PM (#36766894)
Seems like at this point it would be easier to have a list of things unknown to the state of california. it feels like it would be smaller.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by themitigating on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:29PM (#36767469)
It wouldn't and they only list things that have shown some minimal amount of research.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by rsynnott on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @09:50AM (#36772195)
Not updated yet, perhaps. Aspartame is in the same WHO group (2(b)) as aloe vera.