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Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by yamazakiwi on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @12:36PM (#36697281)
I don't have the numbers... but I'm going to assume that regular beer drinkers drink the popular light beers or already have a craft beer they like and spend less money trying new products. It took contentious political media to get die-hards to stop drinking their favorite light beer. That's how ingrained these brands are. It's harder to sell a new Amber Ale than a Juicy Mango/Dragonfruit IPA. These 2 beers serve different personas and the beer industry is focusing on growth over providing new products to their base.
Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by voidfunc on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @12:46PM (#36697461)
I think this is right. When I was in my 20s I was really into beer. Now I'm older and I split my time between the usual light beer culprits when I'm drinking out and enjoying a few craft favorites when I'm drinking in and gaming/doing hobbies. Also when a four pack of 16oz cans is approaching $20 (or exceeding that) I'm less likely to be exploratory because who the he'll wants a fridge of rejects they don't like.
Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by chrisweekly on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @01:36PM (#36698459)
I (rarely) homebrew, for fun, but when it comes to beers in the fridge I have so many great local options to choose from (here on the south shore of MA, near Cape Cod), it's ridiculous: Second Wind, Stellwagen, Mayflower, Timberyard.... typically canned just a week or two before purchase. A few times a year I'll make a trip to Treehouse (worth it), otherwise the local package stores are well-stocked. I do remember enjoying Anchor Steam and IPAs back in the day (as a big upgrade from shitty mass-produced lagers), but my palate evolved and my preference for the best and freshest brew simply rules out generic bottles from the opposite coast.
Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by zerocrates on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:39PM (#36699667)
My understanding is that this is kind of the pattern of the beer downturn. The huge operations are doing okay, shifting around amongst their sub-brands, introducing seltzers, etc. And the hyper-local stuff is still doing well it seems. But the "pretty big" craft brewers that went nationwide, they're facing the brunt.
Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by spookthesunset on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @01:31PM (#36698337)
Those light beers are also low ABV, which is ideal for warm summer days where to just want something refreshing without getting plastered. A simple tasting 4% beer works great for that. A complex, bitter 12% double IPA? Not so much.

I’d much rather drink an amber ale on a nice warm day than yet another IPA.

Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by giantg2 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @01:40PM (#36698529)
Just a point to the marketing and shifting norms... I would call a 4-5% beer normal, not low, ABV.
Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by jamiek88 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:52PM (#36699873)
5% used to be considered high or an ‘export’ lager when I was a lad. We called Stella Artois at a massive 5.2% “wife beater”.

Typical session lagers like Heineken were around 3.5%.

Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by bartread on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @04:42PM (#36701367)
Yeah, I'd call normal anywhere between 3.5 - 5%, with session beers being anything < 3.5%. Anything above 5% is strong and where, 15 years ago, beers used to top out at around 6.5% in your average supermarket (Carlsberg Special Brew aside), nowadays beers at 8 and 9% are commonplace, although perhaps not to the extent they were 5 - 8 years ago.

A lot of these are just too much, and too weird (as I and many others have commented), for day to day drinking. Nowadays I mostly drink session beers because I normally have to worry about driving, getting up early, or functioning in some at least semi-useful way later in the day.

Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by jamiek88 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @07:35PM (#36703157)
Jesus, that ‘speccy brew’ burning tyre taste. We got a couple cans once when properly skint and choked them down.

Some of these 12% burned hops ipa’s taste like special brew to me.

Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by bartread on Thursday July 13, 2023 @05:25PM (#36716207)
> Jesus, that ‘speccy brew’ burning tyre taste.

Yeah, it's basically undrinkable. It was a bit of a staple at 6th form parties in the early 90s because it was cheap and strong, although I always struggled to get it down. I did buy a can many years later to try for a laugh as a fully fledged adult (is it really as bad as I remember, etc.?)... and couldn't finish it. Just awful.

Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by yamazakiwi on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:40PM (#36700513)
To take that one step further I think most new drinkers find seltzers more refreshing in the heat than low abv light beers.
Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by throwawaymobule on Thursday July 13, 2023 @08:54PM (#36718128)
Worth noting that most 'hard seltzers' like whiteclaw are still brewed sort of like beers for tax reasons. Since brewed drinks have less excise on them than premixed drinks.
Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by fennecfoxy on Friday July 14, 2023 @06:12AM (#36721857)
Well nah, the ingredients just like "alcohol": https://ussupport.whiteclaw.com/en/support/solutions/article....

You could argue that the alcohol in it was fermented, but all alcohol is fermented, aha. Apparently WC base alcohol is a pure spirit "5 times distilled from corn & gluten free".

Re:SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years by tick_tock_tick on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:06PM (#36700075)
Bud Light was the most popular beer in the USA until very recently Modelo Especial just passed it. Both of those are very straight forward beers.