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Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by tedunangst on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:00AM (#36677378)
There's always about 100x more people talking about the puritan servers that block the friends of the friends of the wicked servers than there are actual puritans.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by concordDance on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:27AM (#36677564)
So you're saying most Mastadon servers won't block servers that allow "TERF"s (a term which includes the very mainstream view that transwomen shouldnt be allowed in woman's sports)?
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by tedunangst on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:36AM (#36677632)
Many probably will, but they won't recursively block every other server that declines to block those servers, as repeatedly alleged.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by watwut on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:50AM (#36677747)
Not the primary topic, but TERF also gets outraged when transmen participate in sports (basically regardless of which gender they compete for) and demand genital checks of adolescents and kids.

The absolutely miniscule issue of, like, 5 transwomen competiting is just good sounding excuse.

Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by tarsinge on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:33AM (#36678041)
I'm not familiar with that term and the subject, what's the issue with checking someone fit in the corresponding physical category? Sport is all about the physical body and performance, not about personality. Physical categories could be abandoned, but if they are maintained there then it's seems logical to check, maybe with a more scientific test like testosterone level being into a range. Regardless of gender people would then compete in their (testosterone?) class, like weight classes exists in some sports.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by watwut on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:41AM (#36678077)
Yeah, I take issue with forcing anyone including 13 years old to undergo genital checks. It is literally in the sexual harassments category and massively humiliating.

Also, if there is manufactured controversy, it is this one. It is not like there would be hundreds of trans women destroying female sport. This issue exists purely to outrage people and to be cruel to few that exist.

Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by shapenamer on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @01:40PM (#36684472)
weird take imo, I played multiple sports in highschool and every year I had to go have a doctor (always female, but I'm supposed to be ok with this I guess, but I wasn't) handle my genitals or I wouldn't be allowed to compete.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by watwut on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:17PM (#36700230)
That is definitely not normal.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by shapenamer on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @04:30PM (#36778666)
It's extremely normal https://www.virtua.org/articles/turn-your-head-and-cough-the...

You clearly didn't play any sports, or you're female, I suppose.

Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by xigoi on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:03AM (#36677840)
What's even the point of having sports separated into women's and “men's” if anyone can just choose where to participate?
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by watwut on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:42AM (#36678086)
Which is not situation at all, nor was there any threat of that happening.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by concordDance on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:22AM (#36691382)
I have never seen people called "TERF"s being against transmen in men's sports, only transwomen. Haven't seen one demand genital checks either.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by mcv on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:37AM (#36678061)
I think TERF includes a bit more than just that opinion on sports.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by concordDance on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:24AM (#36691391)
That opinion is the minimum required for the label. Any prohibition of transwomen from a woman's space is enough, though most "TERF"s will prohibit all pre-op transwomen from all woman's spaces.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by rsynnott on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @11:38AM (#36682514)
Many Mastodon instances do block instances which allow transphobes, yes. However, it's very rarely _transitive_, is the point; few Mastodon instances will block instances which do not block instances which allow transphobes.
Re:You're So Vain, You Probably Think This App Is About You:... by singleshot_ on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @10:15AM (#36681288)
Counterexample: EFnet