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Re:Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a worko... by siva7 on Monday July 10, 2023 @06:46AM (#36664475)
Could you explain why this is considered bad to just pick the muscle groups you want to train as a novice?
Re:Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a worko... by taccicardia on Monday July 10, 2023 @07:42AM (#36664980)
let's consider two movements: a deadlift and a prone hamstring curl.

the deadlift is something you've done a million times whether you know it or not, though the novice is probably more uncoordinated than they realize at higher weights. like it would be a struggle if not dangerous to move a couch, for example. this is a very practical skill to develop, and you're still "targeting" the same muscle group as...

...a prone hamstring curl. how often do you find yourself prone and flexing your knees against a load? probably never, right? how do you contextualize a movement like this to someone's day to day? what i mean is, what is even compelling about a movement like this and what does it actually mean to someone just starting out?

i'm the world's biggest proponent of "keep it simple, stupid" when it comes to working out, especially as a novice. super detailed split routines are more often than not overwhelming and set people up to develop bad habits while never meaningfully addressing the core issue that drive many people to go to the gym in the first place: people suck at moving.

Re:Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a worko... by matwood on Monday July 10, 2023 @07:20AM (#36664791)
Lack of time is one of the biggest reasons people stop lifting. Standard full body programs are going to be more efficient time wise than picking muscle groups. For example, a program with a lot of rows and presses needs little to no biceps or tricep work.
Re:Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a worko... by sjamaan on Monday July 10, 2023 @10:14AM (#36666776)
"Targeted" exercises tend to be body-builder type stuff which can only really be done with light weights. Instead, bigger compound movements like squat and deadlift can be incrementally trained leading up to much, much heavier weights and they train the body as an integrated whole.

In daily life, the body is used to move with many muscle groups working together. By using a targeted exercise, you can create muscle imbalances and injury is more likely (especially stuff like tendonitis).

Re:Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a worko... by lukas099 on Monday July 10, 2023 @12:22PM (#36668596)
It's not actually bad, it's just not the current Internet fad. If you like to work out that way, you should do it.
Re:Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a worko... by hospitalJail on Monday July 10, 2023 @12:41PM (#36668923)
Maybe, although do people have success doing strength training individual muscle groups? I've only heard of this for bodybuilding.

I don't think I'd put a beginner on a bodybuilding program.

Not to mention, compounds mean learning the correct form for 4 lifts, where isolation means learning the form for ~30 lifts.

Re:Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a worko... by lukas099 on Monday July 10, 2023 @06:42PM (#36674015)
If you are deep into powerlifting or have been lifting for 15 years, sure, there will be a noticeable difference between training for strength and training for hypertrophy.