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Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by 26fingies on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:15PM (#36656359)
one of the really nice things about SEPA is the 0-fee instant transfer (ime 45-60 seconds). Will FedNow be able to do the same thing?
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by nailer on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:26PM (#36656532)
Crypto is 1-2 seconds for about 0.0025 USD worldwide right now.
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by oblio on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:35PM (#36656667)
Which crypto? Where can I pay with it? What if I don't want to have a hardware wallet everywhere with me? Can I cancel transactions and get my money back? Does it use more energy per year than Argentina?
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by nailer on Sunday July 09, 2023 @05:35PM (#36659163)
Good questions.

Solana is the largest of the cheap/fast networks (I’ve worked in Solana for a year), but Aptos and Sui also have solid tech.

You use Safari on your iPhone and unlock your wallet with FaceID.

Right now physical stores that take USDC are generally luxury goods marketplaces, physical art galleries, and PC hardware marketplaces.

No you can’t cancel transactions after you’ve made them, however there are escrow services that provide similar facilities for a small fee.

No it’s proof of stake so the environment is fine.

Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by ix-ix on Sunday July 09, 2023 @06:27PM (#36659619)
Oops, during your transfer the value of the currency is now 80% of what it was!
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by nailer on Monday July 10, 2023 @08:15AM (#36665244)
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by oblio on Monday July 10, 2023 @05:38AM (#36663985)
This sounds promising, I'll get back to you in 10 years.
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by nailer on Monday July 10, 2023 @08:13AM (#36665228)
A completely reasonable reply. There’s a lot of good tech around, it’s definitely better than HN’s 2017-era crypto knowledge, but it’s not evenly distributed at all. I agree the proof will be in a decade.

Personally I jumped into Linux when it was a joke and everyone used Solaris, Python when it was a joke and everyone used Perl, and virtualisation when nobody would ever use it outside testing. I know I’m early in crypto. I hope it will work out but there’s no guarantees on anything.

Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by troupo on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:12PM (#36685891)
> There’s a lot of good tech around

You mean Solana which has to take its network offline every two weeks or so [1] because it can't cope with yet another error/ddos/misconfiguration/what not?

[1] exaggeration.

Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by growt on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:34PM (#36656652)
Really? What crypto exactly and how?
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by 26fingies on Sunday July 09, 2023 @02:38PM (#36657489)
yea well i pay people in money not crypto
Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by Animats on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:43PM (#36656784)
The Fed will charge banks a fee of $0.045 per transaction.[1]

Transactions take a few seconds. They must finish within 20 seconds or they time out, and they're expected to take much less time. Here's a technical overview.[2]

The bank to Fed to bank API uses IBM MQ and ISO 20022. These are a bit dated but widely used in the financial sector. Down at the bottom, it's XML.

[1] https://www.frbservices.org/resources/fees/fednow-2023

[2] https://explore.fednow.org/resources/technical-overview-guid...

Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by mdaniel on Sunday July 09, 2023 @04:19PM (#36658453)
Thank you for posting the actual technical pdf, that was interesting reading

> Certificate-Based Authentication

Heh, so I can look forward to the biennial banking outage as they forget to renew their certs :-D

But in seriousness, I have some experience with x509 auth from the early days of kubernetes using it and unless the system has some robust CRL mechanisms I look forward to knowing how such a scheme will deauthorize users

Interestingly, they also seem to be doing belt-and-suspenders since the messages themselves are signed with the private key of the institution, which appears to be registered out of band from the system itself

Re:Ask HN: What Happened to Web3 Startups? by rsynnott on Sunday July 09, 2023 @04:33PM (#36658580)
Dated?! By banking tech standards, ISO 20022 is futuristic magic, a mere decade old. A lot of banks (particularly in the US) would still be using ISO 15022 or even older standards.