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Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:37PM (#36618648)
You can't think of a scenario where the government should be able to express a thought about something? ;)
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by AuryGlenz on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:43PM (#36618776)
They have plenty of ways to do so without using intermediaries at social media companies.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:47PM (#36618853)
That's implying compelling speech which is not the discussion.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by cscurmudgeon on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:43PM (#36618779)
The rights apply to people not the govt lol

Edit: Amazing, a perfect factual comment is downvoted.

Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:48PM (#36618869)
I'm just saying there are times where you may want the government to be able to express opinions....
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by caseysoftware on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:10PM (#36619274)
A government doesn't "express opinions" they "enact policy."
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by evandale on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:24PM (#36619518)
No? What!? Name a scenario in which the government would put forth an opinion on something.. governments, like corporations, can't have opinions.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:56PM (#36626908)
Sure. "We think that info may put someone on our security team at risk, can you please take it down?"
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by cscurmudgeon on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:58PM (#36634691)
That is not an opinion. It is a request at the best or a command when read pragmatically.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Sunday July 09, 2023 @05:31PM (#36659122)
It's obviously not something they can say in press releases, but it also may not be factual (or provable). There are "we think" situations which are important.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by cscurmudgeon on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:53PM (#36618962)
Yeah, and no one is preventing that.

There is a diff between opinion and force/blackmail disguised as opinion.

"You have a fine shop here, would be a shame if it burned down".

Syntactically, it is an opinion. But it is not just an opinion if comes from a mobster.

Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by JackFr on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:55PM (#36620070)
The daily White House press briefing is an excellent venue.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:58PM (#36626919)
I don't think that gives them all the avenues to express things that may be important.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by AbrahamParangi on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:44PM (#36618801)
I am satisfied for the space of the government’s unenforceable opinions to be circumscribed.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:49PM (#36618892)
Which restrictions are you cool with?
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by uLogMicheal on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:53PM (#36618963)
The government has plenty of ways to express thoughts. Almost every agency has a podium with a room full of reporters waiting whenever they want to make a statement.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by Brusco_RF on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:55PM (#36618993)
They don't have enough channels to do that? They have to do it via veiled threat to a speech platform to delete users posts?

How can anyone defend this behavior? Just because it's your guy doing it? If Trump was telling Twitter to delete posts that hurt his re-election chances would you feel this same way?

Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by artificialLimbs on Thursday July 06, 2023 @02:12PM (#36620365)
Unbelievable that you're being downvoted at all. The authoritarian minded have definitely increased substantially as this site has become more popular and drawn increasingly larger crowds. When it was dominated by those capable of logic and reasoning and having some knowledge of the world, authoritarianism would get smacked down hard and rightfully so.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @06:56PM (#36624420)
I am sure you are just as illogical as other people - and it would be good for you to realize that!

Never did I say that I support governments. I was only asking what I thought (and was wrong about) was a positive provoking question.

Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:57PM (#36626914)
Not the context I was replying to.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by mc32 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:43PM (#36619859)
Sure, in addition to all of their organs of dissemination, of which they have plenty of options, they can also have their own Twitter and Facebook accounts.

What they can’t do is ring up Twitter and Facebook and say, hey, that’s misinformation, do something about it. Or have government embeds giving guidance.

That’s hilariously very ayatollesque behavior!

Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:58PM (#36626927)
I don't think so. For example, if there is info on twitter that puts a government employee at risk, I think it's appropriate for someone to point that out to twitter.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by mc32 on Friday July 07, 2023 @11:36AM (#36633336)
Oh, like when Cops get doxxed, you mean?
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:01PM (#36633722)
Not exactly, no.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by JackFr on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:54PM (#36620045)
For instance, if you're the FAA, you should express opinions about airline operations, air safety, etc. That is your role. If you are the FDA, you should express opinions about food and drug safety. And in both those cases note that you are a regulator, and within your domain, it is your role to regulate the players.

If you are the White House, you are not a regulator of anything. It is fine to express your opinion. In fact the White House has a daily press briefing for specifically that purpose. It is fine to call out people with whom you disagree. Perfectly OK to call them dangerous charlatans and liars. It is not OK to censor their speech. It is not OK use the implicit coercive force of the executive branch to encourage third parties to censor them.

It's not hard to understand.

Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by dragonwriter on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:58PM (#36620126)
> If you are the White House, you are not a regulator of anything

If you are the White House, you are the ur-regulator of anything any part of the executive branch is a regulator of, as well as the things that the Executive Office of the President is the actual direct regulator of (which are mostly internal to government operations.)

Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @04:52PM (#36622826)
Man, people are being really rude here just for me asking a question.
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by JackFr on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:16PM (#36626641)
“Honest question bro!”
Re:Judge rules White House pressured social networks to “sup... by roflyear on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:55PM (#36626904)
Not what I meant at all. You're deciding to interpret things as bad faith.