People gonna people.

At this point even just "not run by a sociopathic Nazi sympathizer" would be sufficient improvement for me to choose it over Twitter.

On the news tonight, anyone I don't like is a Goebbels Jr.

way to prove his point my dude

go back to reddit

Yeah zuckyboy is totally a better dude than the muskrat

The people jumping are from insta and brands. Don't think anyone else cares about this.

not true. almost all my mutuals in twitter created threads account as soon as possible (probably because of the novelty)

Please report back in a week how many of them are posting more on Threads than Twitter. I saw something similar with signups, but content, not so much, not yet at least.

It's quite easy doing better than Twitter considering the antics since the acquisition.

Have you seen Threads and Bluesky? Honestly the algorithm content they feed you makes Twitter look outstanding. Insane how poor it is, Bluesky has an excuse because they're starting from zero but IG has a decade of data on my account and its awful.

I thought the quotes on the BBC article were quite revealing:

> Mr Zuckerberg said keeping the platform "friendly... will ultimately be the key to its success".

> But Mr Musk responded: "It is infinitely preferable to be attacked by strangers on Twitter, than indulge in the false happiness of hide-the-pain Instagram."

If Threads is a fractionally less toxic version of Twitter, it’ll do quite well.

Twitter was extremely toxic before Musk, remember all the cancel mobs that were coordinated there? One side had free speech to defame, libel, etc.

What will people talk about if Instagram is friendly and impartial? My guess is that at best Instagram will allow the pre-Musk toxicity.

> What will people talk about if Instagram is friendly

Anything that's not the current American culture wars? The same things most people talk about in their lives when not throthing at the mouth on Twitter. (i.e. comedy, sports, tech, food, animals, jobs, cars, etc.)

And, of course, culture wars will still be discussed, but it doesn't need promoting to those not interested in arguing such things on social media.

Ah, another anonymous coward registering a throwaway to make baseless claims.

By your argument "one side" has "free speech" to do what they like on Twitter now, and it's not the "mobs" you're trying to denigrate in your comment...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zm9q/elon-musk-twitter-naz...

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2022/12/19/c...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/elon-musks-twitter-welcom...

https://apnews.com/article/twitter-elon-musk-transgender-dea...

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/twitter-changes-hateful-conduct...

It's worth noting two things while you have mock outrage about "free speech":

1. While claiming to be a free speech absolutist, Elon is absolutely not one -- taking action against critics (whether cancelling orders, firing, or suspending accounts), rather than -- like he would claim otherwise -- allowing people to have unrestricted speech.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/03/elon-musk...

https://www.barrons.com/articles/twitter-suspends-plainsite-...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/twitter-faces-criticism-af...

https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23512004/elon-musk-start...

2. Free speech isn't what you think it is... https://xkcd.com/1357/

The only one who is showing outrage in this thread is you.

You are correct about Musk not being a real free speech absolutist. All other claims are strawmen.

Angrily jumping into a conversation with reams of misinformation isn't going to change anyone's mind, sir.

No anger or "jumping" (projecting much?), no misinformation - and nor a "sir" - but keep up the baseless drivel and assumption, toxic single-comment throwaway...

Can you please stop posting flamewar comments to HN? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, and we eventually have to ban such accounts.

I've banned some of the other accounts who were posting flamebait stuff in this thread, because they didn't have much history and some look like serial trolls. I don't want to ban your account because it's been around for a while, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use this site in the intended spirit, we'd be grateful.

Stating facts and citing sources isn't "posting flamewar comments" -- the only "flamewar" was the baseless trolling nonsense posted in the first place, so if you could actually bother to note context rather than jumping to making ridiculous threats, I'd be grateful.

"Ah, another anonymous coward registering a throwaway to make baseless claims" isn't "stating facts and citing sources", it's garden-variety internet attack/flamewar (ditto for "you have mock outrage", "projecting much?", "keep up the baseless drivel and assumption", etc.) That sort of thing is not allowed here and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't do it again. You can state facts and cite sources while remaining thoughtful and respectful, so please do that instead.

Edit: We've had to ask you about this more than once before:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33850557 (Dec 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33850484 (Dec 2022)

and you've unfortunately been continuing the same pattern in other recent threads (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36338416). As I said already, I don't want to ban you, but if you don't stop posting like this, we're going to have to—so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it.

Is that really true, though? All of the social media today was absolutely packed with all the stuff that everybody now says is absolutely toxic during its rapid growth phase. And users today often talk about how much better it was 10 years ago when it was still the wild west.

> If Threads is a fractionally less toxic version of Twitter, it’ll do quite well.

It will eventually be equally as toxic. Twitter started in a calm setting until the ads, politics, outrage filled it up. Threads will have ads soon and will apply the same Instagram algorithms it had before to promote verified outrage.

Trump is also on both Twitter and Threads. As long as he and other Instagram users are on Threads, then the outrage town hall will continue and will be no better than Twitter.

> Trump is also on both Twitter and Threads. As long as he and other Instagram users are on Threads, then the outrage town hall will continue and will be no better than Twitter.

I don't know, I'm in Europe, I follow zero explicitly political people yet US politics dominates my Twitter feed. I don't get that on Instagram which is all I need to make the service more enjoyable and to feel less toxic than Twitter. The outrage town hall will of course continue on Threads, but hopefully with only those who are activley seeking it.

>>If Threads is a fractionally less toxic version of Twitter, it’ll do quite well.

Toxicity is Twitter's moat.

Its like people going to watch UFC fight, or boxing or something like that. Niceties aren't addictive. You need controversies, trolling and fighting all over to attract people.

That's why people go to Twitter. Not to post Birthday and Vacation pictures.

No one is really jumping from Twitter, we saw last week during the rate limit debacle that everyone who was shouting loudly about how great Bluesky was are all still addicted to Twitter.

There's going to be ActivityPub federation. You'll be able to have it your way, especially without the forced recommended posts in the feed, as soon as it launches.

AP federation just means you can spam your posts outside the Threads walled garden, eventually. It doesn't guarantee anything about how the native client will choose to show posts.

Being able to not miss out on others' updates and participate in discussions is good enough for me.