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Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by mistrial9 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:24PM (#36604808)
was it really constructive for this pioneering tech to choose the actual "devil" as a logo? then the move to shiny plastic look for the logo? long-standing public divisions with no end.. niche opinionated choices sure, but dont be surprised at the results.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by Jtsummers on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:45PM (#36605180)
Is anyone actually offended by a mascot based on a joke about "Unix daemon"? Do they just not get the joke or are they really that sensitive? I imagine it's the same sort of person that opposes table top games like Dungeons & Dragons and shares out Chick tracts (often highly offensive and rude, ostensibly Christian, cartoon tracts denouncing Catholics, Jews, and Muslims, in particular, as well as other groups; we had someone leaving them in our office for a while).
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by fluoridation on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:10PM (#36605550)
Apparently a tiny minority of people are bothered by it. I was looking for information about the logo a few weeks ago and stumbled upon this anecdote: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2011-Novemb...

>I just got a call from the owner of a hotel for which we provide hotspot service. She says that a guest spotted the "Powered by FreeBSD" logo at the bottom of the login page, and was offended; the guest was convinced that either we or the hotel management "worshipped the Devil" and refused to stay at the hotel unless the logo was removed.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by wkat4242 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @05:15PM (#36607238)
If you really search for it, you will always find someone offended by anything.

Only a few years ago there was this German guy that bullied VS Code into removing their cutesy Santa hat which doesn't even have any religious context, it's originally a coca cola thing :')

Anyway, having ubiquitous usage is not a goal of FreeBSD. People are free not to use it if they don't feel like it. I guess there's not much overlap in people being offended by penguins and those offended by daemons so I might have another suggestion :P

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by sph on Thursday July 06, 2023 @02:54AM (#36612245)
What is truly laughable is Microsoft removing the Santa hat because of a lunatic.

https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87268

Anyone is free to have an opinion, including not paying any attention to idiots and intolerants.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by jen20 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:21PM (#36609672)
A tale I have heard several times:

- Company admits to using FreeBSD.

- Christian groups who are shareholders complain at the execs

- FreeBSD is no longer used at the company.

CockroachDB has a similar naming problem, though that tends to be the execs themselves objecting.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by codehalo on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:51PM (#36605264)
Well, blame the daemon being a background process… but yes, marketing wasn’t a consideration back then.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by kjs3 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:41PM (#36606002)
It's a daemon [1]. Like the process.

30 years ago it wasn't divisive nor a niche opinionated choice. Kinda the obvious choice. But I guess some people really want it to be [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon [2] https://www.ign.com/articles/someone-complained-to-ad-standa...

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by wkat4242 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @05:48PM (#36607632)
It's not a devil but a daemon and I don't think this has ever caused people to not use it.

I mean beastie is super cute and wears green sneakers. You'd have to be really hardcore religious like Amish to take that seriously and they abhor computers anyway :)

I like the new logo too. It's just a ball with two cones really.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by assimpleaspossi on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @06:36PM (#36608165)
Created by John Lasseter who also directed Toy Story. Do you want to question the beginnings of Toy Story, too? Do you also hate Jesus?!!!
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by mistrial9 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @07:05PM (#36608459)
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Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by redundantly on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @07:24PM (#36608660)
Odd that you felt it necessary to copy and paste the rules without fully reading them.

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Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by assimpleaspossi on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @07:46PM (#36608876)
The first sentence of my post is fact. The second is commentary. The third is a joke. Apparently he doesn't get the joke.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by ybloviator on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @08:45PM (#36609416)
[citation needed]

(not in a snarky way, I want the story!)

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by Jtsummers on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @08:51PM (#36609468)