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Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by Lolaccount on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:19AM (#36600053)
* moment in movie when the group look up and see the birds migrating *

* add ominous movie soundtrack *

Twitter (as a useful platform) is over.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by RandomTisk on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:40AM (#36600316)
A federal judge just slapped an injunction on the Biden admin's censorship program, the war for the first amendment rages on without liberals helping one iota, except for those who have been ostracized. I hope we reach a point in history soon where we look back with sorrow at the current madness that is prevailing at robbing people of their voices for some perceived political gain.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by Pxtl on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:47AM (#36600432)
Is this about people posting stolen revenge-porn of the President's son again?
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by LexiMax on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:57AM (#36600554)
Whatever idea of free speech that you have in your head, Twitter is not helping, as the site still regularly engages in "censorship" in every sense that the old ownership did.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by RavingGoat on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:01AM (#36600629)
Revenge porn is not protected under the first amendment. Revenge porn has no place in society much less politics.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by lockhouse on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:18AM (#36600831)
The Biden administration colluded with social media and traditional media platforms to censor anything they branded misinformation. In practice this was anything damaging to their official narratives. This is not about revenge porn.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by hersko on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:36AM (#36600270)
Just community notes alone make Twitter a far more useful platform than it was before.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by dragontamer on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:54AM (#36600507)
How are community notes helpful to a fictional illustrator or their followers?
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by rideontime on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:02AM (#36600630)
And they already existed before the purchase.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by stcroixx on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:34AM (#36600247)
Maybe for you, but for many of us it’s almost as if it was just released. A censored platform was of little use, but now you can see all kinds of ideas there. I know I use it more now.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by two_handfuls on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:41AM (#36600324)
Twitter is more censored than ever. It just censors different things now.

One example: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/im-nobody-calls-employer-elon...

Another: https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/elon-musk-says-terms-like-cisg...

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by curious-im on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:42AM (#36600349)
Mind to share what new ideas that was censored before you find interesting?
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by stcroixx on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @01:12PM (#36603519)
COVID stands out as a topic.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by Lolaccount on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:51AM (#36613573)
You've replied to this, but not to anyone mentioning that the platform is still censored, just in new and silly ways (e.g. the Tesla critic who got shafted). Perhaps we're skewed ... you're just skewed in a different way. It's useful to recognise this.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by stcroixx on Thursday July 06, 2023 @03:00PM (#36621069)
The only mentions in my replies about current censorship are about a petty beef between Elon and some Tesla critics and one about Elon not wanting cis used on the platform. I'm not a fan of Elon and I wouldn't have done either of these things, but their impact seems inconsequential compared to the number of people affected by censoring a topic like COVID. Seems more like evidence of a spoiled rich baby used to getting his way behaving exactly like I'd expect him to, which I don't think is nearly as threatening as the previous pattern of elected government officials spanning multiple administrations and parties and an entire department of people at Twitter working together (standing meetings!) to spin a yarn for us plebes. Maybe this is the skew you speak of - I tend to judge things from a utilitarian perspective of how many people are impacted.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by w0m on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:41AM (#36600325)
> A censored platform was of little use

it's still very blatantly 'censored', just with different ideological front shouting about it.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by Pxtl on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:42AM (#36600343)
What censorship was bothering you? The censorship against transphobia? Because that's the only thing I'm seeing censored less. Other forms of bigotry are still getting accounts locked, and we're far enough from 2020 now that nobody really seems to be bothering with election denial anymore.

Meanwhile, besides its stability issues, there's the new problem that the top replies to every popular tweet are... well, pretty awful, because they're chosen by blue-check instead of popularity. That's a huge downturn in reading enjoyment.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by stcroixx on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @01:19PM (#36603607)
I don’t like any censorship, but COVID as a topic was bonkers while it was all propaganda. The problem with a platform you know is censored is that you can never know what is missing - that’s the nature of censorship.

Adam Schiff putting his fingers on the scale is something I’m not interested in either.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by two_handfuls on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:32PM (#36626322)
As far as I know, only COVID misinformation was filtered out on Twitter. The GOP is suing on the basis that they went too far, but the GOP has not been acting in good faith in years.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by jasonlotito on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:50AM (#36600474)
An interesting thought, considering the barometer which Musk used to measure his commitment to free speech, shows he is not committed to free speech, and "censorship" is still rampant. Literally, using Musk as the context here, Twitter is literally more censored now than it was before.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by Lolaccount on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:00AM (#36600599)
Cool story, bro ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/free-speech-censorship-elon-...

And the story about the guy criticising Tesla who had their account suspended.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by LexiMax on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:43AM (#36600371)
Pretty much. It was rather shocking to me that Twitter was so thoroughly broken by rate-limits and the login gate that it was easier to get updates about Twitter on Mastodon than on Twitter itself.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by darkwater on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:55AM (#36600522)
I was on holidays that week and I didn't even noticed the drama. Is Twitter then doing just fine?

Looks like Twitter is just easy to bash nowadays, I'm not that a big user but I see, especially in the OSS / computer related profiles a lot of people putting their Mastodon address in the nickname and yet still tweeting, retweeting, liking in the same compulsory manner as they did before.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by LexiMax on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:21AM (#36600868)
I was also never that big of a Twitter user, and it's my observation that my former Twitter-using acquaintances bemoan that Twitter's use as a social space has pretty much died. They still use it, but only as a glorified RSS feed.

Most of them don't like Mastodon either due to not liking defederation drama, but instead they moved their socializing to Discord and Instagram, with a few chomping at the bit to get into BlueSky.

For what it's worth, this is a trend I observed long before Twitter introduced rate-limiting and the login gate. Ironically, clicking through on Twitter links other people posted was the one use case I ever visited the site for, and now that that doesn't work I simply rely on the vxtwitter summary or a screenshot.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by Lolaccount on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @11:58AM (#36602292)
I'm on Mastodon (et al) and I did often go back to Twitter to check on things.

But now they blocked checking things when not logged in, inertia has set in and I cannot even bothered to make the effort and don't feel like I've lost anything. Even for those accounts I followed.

I just think of paid blue checks spouting off nonsense while paying to do so and think to myself: "No ... that's not the bullshit I want to consume. I preferred the relatively democratic bullshit from before"

... and then I think: "Let's just cut the bullshit"

It is a shame, as it was entertaining.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by darkwater on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @04:51PM (#36606926)
I think that bullshitting is just part of human nature (or at least of the current global society/ies). You just need a critical mass to see it properly. When a community/social network is small, it's either bullshit free or completely full of bullshit. When it's big enough, the bullshit quantity will converge regardless the initial value.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by Lolaccount on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:40AM (#36617709)
I'm calling bullshit.

Hasn't answered yet.

Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by darkwater on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:58PM (#36619051)
To what should I answer? To what people you know do on Twitter? I stand by my opinion: the platform doesn't have a word in the bullshitting level, unless it strictly moderates the content in a way that would be basically dictatorial.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by zirgs on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:03AM (#36600651)
Unregistered users can't view user profiles any more. Tweet embedding works again. I would not call that "just fine".
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by darkwater on Thursday July 06, 2023 @02:12AM (#36611972)
I just checked out a tweet in an private window. Looks like that works as well just like before.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by zirgs on Thursday July 06, 2023 @06:27AM (#36613812)
Unregistered users can't view user profiles. That worked before. This means that apps like fritter don't work any more.
Re:Amid Twitter Chaos, Japanese Illustrators Flock to Weibo by darkwater on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:27AM (#36614242)
Sorry, misread the "user profile" part, I thought it was the lone linked tweet/thread