News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by miki123211 on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:51AM (#36537187)
If you're on iOS, I highly recommend Yattee[1], a free Youtube app with no ads, background playback and sponsor block built-in.

The way they get around App Store restrictions is by claiming that they aren't a Youtube app. They're technically a video-watching app which is supposed to be used with your own personal server. The server API they require, however, is supported by Invidious[2], an open-source, privacy-preserving Youtube front end. If you configure an Invidious instance in settings[3] (you don't have to host your own, there are plenty of them out there), you effectively get access to the entirety of Youtube.

It's not a replacement for the official app by any means, it doesn't have a recommendation feed, it doesn't let you log in with a Google account, so it doesn't sync watch history with your other devices, it doesn't let you cast to Youtube-enabled devices, post comments, scroll through shorts etc, but if you have a playlist or a specific, longer video in mind, it's quite good. It also supports Invidious accounts, which let you manage channel subscriptions.

[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629 [2] https://invidious.io/ [3] https://gonzoknows.com/posts/yattee/

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by nostromo on Friday June 30, 2023 @12:27PM (#36537866)
Here's a much simpler approach: use the Brave browser on iOS and use the YouTube website.

It blocks all YouTube ads, allows background playback and picture-in-picture, etc.

You also get all of your regular YouTube features, like recommendations, etc.

I haven't used the official YouTube app since.

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by RoyGBivCap on Friday June 30, 2023 @02:23PM (#36539788)
Using the Brave browser on iPadOS at least, YouTube will just refuse to served HD content after one video. Enjoy your 4K video downscaled to 360p.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by tubs on Saturday July 01, 2023 @06:00AM (#36548471)
works for me without downscaling.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by paulddraper on Friday June 30, 2023 @02:54PM (#36540308)
Using Brave to defeat YouTube ads.....ironic.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by dceddia on Friday June 30, 2023 @12:04PM (#36537442)
This seems great, and it's open source, too: https://github.com/yattee/yattee

And there's a native Mac app! And tvOS!

Maybe I'm just getting old, but as I was reading through the list of features this doesn't have, I just got more and more excited. My watch pattern is pretty much watching videos to solve problems or research some particular thing, and I feel like I find most of them through Google or YouTube search. The recommendations can be pretty good, but there's always those clickbaity, completely unrelated ones mixed in, trying to pull me into a totally separate rabbit hole.

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by nicce on Saturday July 01, 2023 @08:56AM (#36549609)
Just hopefully Google does not follow the Reddit and Twitter train.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by dybber on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:59AM (#36537338)
Does this exist for Apple TV as well?
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by bradly on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:07PM (#36538539)
It does.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by topicseed on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:46PM (#36539173)
Or just pay for YouTube Premium?
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by 0xffff2 on Friday June 30, 2023 @02:52PM (#36540270)
I pay for Premium. Sadly it doesn't stop creators from inserting their own ~ads~ sponsorships into the videos directly so Sponsorblock is still a non-negotiable component of Youtube for me.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by scrollaway on Friday June 30, 2023 @06:47PM (#36543560)
I highly recommend Nebula. Not only is it adfree and sponsor free, it’s also much more curated than YouTube so the odds of finding good quality videos there are very high.

Plus I paid for the lifetime subscription there so … no subscription for me.

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by 0xffff2 on Monday July 03, 2023 @12:20PM (#36575152)
I looked at all (I think?) of the people on Nebula. I only recognize a few and none of them are people I follow on Youtube. The average quality might be higher, but it doesn't seem like Nebula is a platform for the niche YouTubers that make the platform worthwile for me.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by dxxmxnd on Friday June 30, 2023 @03:29PM (#36540850)
16 USD a month just to block ads seems ridiculous.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by abawany on Friday June 30, 2023 @05:08PM (#36542305)
It's cheaper if you pay annually (129usd, afair). And YT Premium also includes access to YT Music, which is also ad-free. Plus the annual subscription doesn't auto-renew.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by kjkjadksj on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:32PM (#36545312)
$130 usd a year for youtube. Wow. Thank you devs for ublock origin.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by eviks on Saturday July 01, 2023 @01:16AM (#36546853)
So there is no option to pay just to block all adds, just some bundle that blocks some ads
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by shultays on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:04PM (#36545055)
And it is inferior since it lacks sponsor block. I have premium that I use on my phone and it is pretty annoying that pretty much each video still has ads in them in the form of a sponsor segment

At some point I will probably cancel my subscription and use an unofficial app with sponsor block. And that aldo hopefully blocks shorts ad well

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by comprev on Friday June 30, 2023 @03:35PM (#36540942)
Musi on iOS [0] is a fantastic YouTube client which removes ads. The trick, albeit slightly inconvenient, is to copy/paste the exact YT title you wish to view. The search functionality isn’t that good. Some things live like streams don’t work however this has never been an issue for me.

[0] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/musi-simple-music-streaming/id...

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by Jaxan on Friday June 30, 2023 @03:41PM (#36541023)
Oh this is amazing! Even works on iOS 15! Thanks for the recommendation.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by switch007 on Friday June 30, 2023 @04:36PM (#36541864)
* * *
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by immibis on Friday June 30, 2023 @04:41PM (#36541954)
I heard the next version of iPhone will be forced to allow sideloading, so you could just install this app without jumping through hoops. Thanks, EU!
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by mgrandl on Saturday July 01, 2023 @08:35AM (#36549443)
It's already on the Appstore, you just need to setup a Invidious or Piped instance to watch YouTube.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by RajT88 on Friday June 30, 2023 @05:10PM (#36542325)
There's also NewPipe on Android:

https://newpipe.net/

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by JackGreyhat on Friday June 30, 2023 @06:17PM (#36543221)
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by lom on Saturday July 01, 2023 @09:46AM (#36550059)
and revanced: https://revanced.app/
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by ecliptik on Friday June 30, 2023 @05:45PM (#36542791)
Yattee + Tailscale + Piped greatly increased my consumption of Youtube videos.

Missing most of the features mentioned (recommendations, watch history, google account, shorts) are all pros instead of cons to me. Just an app for intentionally watching content in a no-frills private environment, it's refreshing.

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by esperent on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:07PM (#36545085)
How do you find new videos to watch?

I have two modes of watching YouTube:

1. When I want to learn about something. Then I use a search engine to find the video, and your setup would be fine

2. When I want to relax and watch generally interesting informative videos. Or sometimes comedy or animation.

I subscribe to a range of channels and use the YT recommendations for the second mode (which sucks but is barely usable).

How do people watching YT with no account handle this second mode of watching?

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by KingMachiavelli on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:55PM (#36545500)
A lot of these alternatives allow you to keep track of subscriptions without a Google account and actually show a chronological feed (which IMO is one of the most annoying things about the official YouTube app). For mindless watching TikTok is my default.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by esperent on Saturday July 01, 2023 @12:36AM (#36546631)
* * *
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by nomilk on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:35PM (#36546210)
Any quick start guide to setting this up (e.g for newbies)?
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by akerr on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:06PM (#36545075)
I use Vinegar[1] with Safari on all platforms which provides HTML5 video (and PiP etc) but with the other YouTube features. I have the Subscriptions page bookmarked so I get a reverse chronological list from my favourite creators. You could also use channel RSS to do this without an account.

[1] https://apps.apple.com/app/id1591303229

Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by lemming on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:32PM (#36546188)
I also use Vinegar, it's great. I recommend the developer's other apps, too. They tend to be simple apps which do one useful thing well, and also have a sense of humour.
Re:YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad ... by christophilus on Friday June 30, 2023 @10:52PM (#36545924)
Brave on iOS is my choice. It also lets you download videos for offline viewing.