The Ukraine war is not 50 years ago and clearly affects the entire country. If Russia decides to pay reparations that could make sense but it’s a different issue by a long shot.

50 years later after a bunch of people have been born, died, and moved in and out? No way.

Why or why not does the time matter? And what length does or does it not matter?

This is not math, no matter the answer it’s clearly opinionated, hence this Supreme Court case.

In one year, the people involved are basically the same. In 50 years, a lot of births, deaths, and immigration have changed the population dramatically.

There could be a discussion about one year vs ten years or something, I don’t know. But it’s irrelevant to the current topic.

Just do what’s right based on individual circumstances. If person A is poor, help them, don’t discriminate against person B. That just feels like a government trying to pass blame for its own failed social policies over the last 50 years.

Well clearly you have all the answers lol. Again your logic is faulty. There is no world government compelling action thus by your own logic any government can simply fail to take action until the duration you have mentioned has passed and then they are absolved of responsibility.

Just like in "statute of limitations"?

Irrelevant. The question isn’t about legality. It’s morality and one of ethics. Even if it were legal it’s the government itself that would need to be compelled. There’s no higher force. There’s the citizenry which takes us to the current discussion and thread.

It’s not about being “absolved”, it’s about literally different sets of people on both sides.

If you can find the individuals and draw a straight line, then you have a case. If not, well, not fair, but welcome to reality.

How convenient that groups can simply run out the clock on this stuff.

The concept of "statute of limitations" exists.

I'd believe that conservatives were genuine about this argument if they were actively supporting policies that repaired more recent oppression.

True, but in American law at least, some crimes like murder don't have a statute of limitations.

Implicitly, they do. The murderer dies at some point.

Justice is often thwarted by death. Welcome to the human condition.

Let's hope the sins of the fathers are not visited upon the sons!

Yes, people get away, and it’s unfair. Affirmative Action is not a good solution.

It may have made sense at one time, but that time is passed and it’s incompatible with our Constitution, so it needs to go. From now on, help individuals who need help and ignore their skin color.

"Change is the only constant"

— As uttered by quadrillions of philosophers of varying repute

Unless you suggest an omnipotent being intervene, I'm not sure how you intend to enact perfect fairness. Circumstances change over time. With some help from other nations, I imagine Ukraine could recover quite nicely from the war in time (once it's over). People won't come back to life, sure, but that's been true for eons. Unfortunately, African-Americans generally don't have the potential for such a positive outcome, which is why reform needs to happen. To go back on topic, I just don't think AA is the solution (or, at best, it's an aspect of the solution to be phased out eventually). I've said my ideas of reform elsewhere.

yeah they clock ran out the slavers are dead, do you want to dig up their corpses hold a trail and inprison the dead? move on.

That is what your family did to my ancestors.

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Convenient? How about "necessary to keep your head sane"?

Because the alternative is to be forever stuck on all possible grudges of yesteryear, never moving on.

Personally, I am not going to start hating random contemporary Germans only because Nazis killed three of my relatives 80 years ago and, well, burnt and pillaged their way across Central and Eastern Europe.

I just refuse to be a mindless slave to the past, whipped up by nationalist politicians, no matter how horrible that past was.

How much money do you think the Germans and Russians owe the Poles, Belarussians and Ukrainians for WW2?

A more interesting question to me is how much people think West African countries owe ancestors of USAmericans who were sold to be transported? Should the bill be bigger or smaller because most (?) didn't survive?

> Suppose the war in Ukraine ends today. Time skips forward a year with no change from the present. A committee recommends reparations for the Ukrainians affected. Do you do it or not?

Is it the same if you wait five or six generations instead of a year?

What do you think?

I asked you.

If the people who perpetuated the wrong are still alive, then reparations are possible. Otherwise, it's not.