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Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by mdrew on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:51PM (#36510831)
I would also say this attitude was pervasive when we used leaded gasoline, which widely contaminated the biosphere, roads and people.

It's everywhere. We all have it. Why bother.

I think we now know there's no safe level of lead in the blood. If you have suspected exposure in 2023, doctors quantify your lead level through a blood test and if it's elevated, recommend a medical procedure called chelation to remove it.

With PFAS, the medicine is just starting to catch up to the horrors of the news cycle.

But I think in the future, PFAS contamination is going to be treated in a similar way to lead exposure. That is, medically.

But right now, it's easy to throw up ones hands and say, it's all fucked. Why bother doing anything.

Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by eutectic on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:45PM (#36511610)
Well, in the case of lead, I don't think it was irrational for individuals to feel disempowered. The solution was regulatory and societal change, but how many people want to devote their lives to being PFAS crusaders?
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by mdrew on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:08PM (#36511881)
Society is starting to change. EPAs super aggressive new water quality standards. Bans on PFAS in packaging.

PFAS crusader haha.

Edit: forgot the word water

Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by ShakataGaNai on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:01PM (#36510998)
So the "what should I do?" was the big question.

Even in your OP, you said you didn't know what to do about it. Neither does the website say much other than basically "lawyer". If there is something I can do to help me, then there is a purpose to the test. This chelation you mentioned.

But again, this should be a "See a doctor first" situation. What are the risks of chelation? Is it safer for me to have PFAS than go through chelation?

The lawyers ( https://www.pintas.com/pfas-class-action-lawsuit/can-pfas-be... ) say there is nothing I can do. So I should sue.

The news says there might be a way soon ( https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/new-way-destroy-p... ) to get rid of PFAS, but nothing about from the human body.

At least the EPA has some suggestions about how to reduce your risk: https://www.epa.gov/pfas/meaningful-and-achievable-steps-you...

Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by giantg2 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:41PM (#36511567)
"to get rid of PFAS, but nothing about from the human body."

We have some really old tech that can reduce your levels -blood letting. (... or donation).

Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by mdrew on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:09PM (#36511102)
I don't have all the answers. Just trying to provide one small solution in the chain.
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by ars on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:09PM (#36511106)
So far as I know chelation is not effective for PFAS, chelation is for metals.

PFAS will eventually (slowly) leave your body - focus on not getting anymore, not on removing it. I posted a comment with suggestions elsewhere in this thread.

Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by mdrew on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:15PM (#36511188)
Correct. I was using lead chelation as an analogy for the medical management of PFAS contamination.
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by azinman2 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @05:24PM (#36512804)
Evidence so far is that plasma and blood donations can remove it slowly.
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by dingnuts on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:56PM (#36510895)
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the global lead poisoning hypothesis that was popularized by Neil DeGrasse Tyson's remake of Cosmos was determined to be based on extremely scant evidence and may have been outright false
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by JBorrow on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:58PM (#36510935)
What are you talking about? This is an ongoing global public health crisis: https://www.who.int/news/item/23-10-2022-almost-1-million-pe...
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by rcme on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:16PM (#36511968)
A recent study in Nee Zealand found that blood lead levels of 3.5 micrograms / dL, which is the lowest easily detectable level, were associated with a drop of 1 IQ. People during the times of lead paint and leaded gasoline often had levels of 80 micrograms / dL. It seriously messed them up.
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by mdrew on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:22PM (#36512045)
Our first version of the site was PFAS.wtf but that didn't test well
Re:Show HN: PFAS.report – Measure the forever chemicals in y... by rcme on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:14PM (#36511939)
Lead in the blood is really just a side effect of chronic exposure. What’s currently considered elevated is something like 3.5 micrograms / dL. It’s equivalent to just a few specks of lead dust in your blood. The bigger issue is that lead in your blood means you have lead in your bones where it will poison you throughout your life.