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Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:15AM (#36492255)
So tell me again why I would ever use a browser created by an adTech company?
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by grugagag on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:22AM (#36492339)
They’ve backed out of their promise to do no evil long time ago.. I have no reasons for still using chrome from time to time or at work where I prefer it over the obnoxious Edge. Firefox user at home though…
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by jkaplowitz on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:33AM (#36492473)
Formally they never removed "don't be evil" from their code of conduct, although it's now part of the last sentence rather than a standalone sentence at the beginning of the preface as it used to be, and I think it's far more often disregarded by their policymaking levels of leadership than it was in their earlier years.

https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

Much of the media reporting got this wrong when Google made this change in 2018.

They never promised to "do no evil", and that's become increasingly evident over time.

Disclosure: I have worked for Google in the past, most recently more than 8 years ago now, but I have never been in any way part of Google's policymaking leadership ranks and am certainly not speaking for them here.

Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by automatic6131 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:23AM (#36492352)
Here are your choices:

Adtech company's browser

the adtech reskin

the browser company almost wholly funded by the adtech company

OR Vendor and device restricted browser that won't work if you, say, wish to use Windows or Linux (incl android).

Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by userbinator on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:41AM (#36492586)
Or one of the other small independents that won't work with sites that have drunk the Goog-Aid, but will be perfectly fine and even preferable on the rest of the document web, and even some of the interactive ones (old-school forums and the like.)
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by isykt on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:30AM (#36492440)
I don’t wish to use Windows or Linux or Android, so it looks like I’m set.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by 8zah6q7 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @11:07AM (#36493959)
iOS/Mac? Apple sells advertising too. They're just as evil if not more than any other megacorp.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @11:12AM (#36494035)
Do they track me across websites? I think the AppStore is a shit show too with or without Apple ads.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by ahahahahah on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @12:21PM (#36494989)
Yes. They absolutely track you across websites.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @12:28PM (#36495094)
And I’m sure you have evidence of that?
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:27AM (#36492414)
And if I wouldn’t use a browser by an adTech company, why would I use a phone with an operating system built by the same adTech company?
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by smoldesu on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:19AM (#36493173)
Perhaps because you forgot both are Open Source with privacy-respecting forks?
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:58AM (#36493836)
And then you give up every app that uses Google Play Services.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by smoldesu on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:59AM (#36493852)
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @11:13AM (#36494047)
If you’re using Google Play Services you’re still being tracked and have closed source Google on your phone
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by justinclift on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:20AM (#36493187)
If you're on macOS, the Kagi people have their own "Orion" browser now too:

https://browser.kagi.com

Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by wintermutestwin on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:48AM (#36492711)
>So tell me again why I would ever use a browser created by an adTech company?

So tell me again why I would ever use a browser that lacks functional vertical tabs? Yes, some chrome-based browsers have vertical tabs (brave, others?), but no browser can compare to the functionality of Firefox with Sidebery. Too bad Mozilla doesn't care about Firefox enough to bake it in and trying to turn off the damn horizontal tabs is such a convoluted process.

I'll also note that Safari's implementation of vertical tabs is hilariously bad.

And to those of you who still use horizontal tabs - if you keep more than a handful of tabs open at once, you need to graduate to the clearly superior UX of vertical tabs.

Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:53AM (#36492787)
Vertical tabs vs being tracked all over the web with the only privacy safeguard is a pinky promise?

That’s not a hard tradeoff.

Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by smoldesu on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:24AM (#36493248)
> with the only privacy safeguard is a pinky promise?

Using the internet in any modern capacity can basically be summed up with this phrase. Unless you're running a PinePhone with a browser you compiled yourself, you're throwing stones from a glass house.

Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @11:19AM (#36494138)
Is there any evidence that Apple is using your browsing history to sell ads? Are they putting their super secret ad web tracking functionality in Safari. But not putting it in WebKit?
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by bagacrap on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:30AM (#36493375)
If you define adtech as anything that's paid for by ads then the entire web is adtech aside from the 1% that's subscription based.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @11:14AM (#36494061)
I can use Adblock to block ads on websites. When it’s built into the browser? Not so much
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by bagacrap on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:55PM (#36501338)
This article isn't about building ads into chrome or any other browser. It's about technology that's replacing third party cookies for enabling targeted advertising. IOW it won't change the effectiveness of your ad blocker.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by scarface_74 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @11:43AM (#36508158)
My ad blocker also prevents tracking by blocking urls used to send information to aggregators. When the tracking is built into the browser, ad blocking can’t block it.
Re:Google asks websites to kindly not break its shiny new ta... by activiation on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @08:50AM (#36505667)
Because everyone else fell for it /s