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Re:The Pentagon’s $52,000 trash can by ceejayoz on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:07AM (#36447006)
> I see no reason why this couldn't have happened here: "oh, your trash cans are going EOL; we expect to need 40 of them in the next 30 years, please produce them before you EOL them".

Congress. The big stink would go from "we bought four $52k trash cans" to "we bought hundreds of trash cans we won't need for a decade, if ever!"

Examples:

Rand Paul complaining about things like $8M in unused solar panels: https://www.paul.senate.gov/news-sen-rand-paul-highlights-18...

Bobby Jindal saying "Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C.": https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/news-blog/bobby-jindal-...

Re:The Pentagon’s $52,000 trash can by vanchor3 on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:48AM (#36447559)
> Congress. The big stink would go from "we bought four $52k trash cans" to "we bought hundreds of trash cans we won't need for a decade, if ever!"

Unfortunately, both of those things frequently happen simultaneously.

Re:The Pentagon’s $52,000 trash can by paulddraper on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:49AM (#36447574)
Hyperbole. Orders of magnitude different.

4 extra =/= hundreds extra

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And why did the government spend $8M(!!) in unused solar panels? I could have gotten 26,000+ trash cans at $300 each!

Re:The Pentagon’s $52,000 trash can by ceejayoz on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:52AM (#36447609)
The article says they needed another 11 the next year. Buying a couple hundred seems sensible if (as I suspect it is) most of the cost is at the project level rather than the unit level.

> And why did the government spend $8M(!!) in unused solar panels?

Spares? A lower than expected defect rate? Who knows? Paul doesn't provide useful specifics, just the politically sexy top-level numbers.

In an organization with a multi-trillion dollar annual budget, $8M in unused solar panels is a bit like you throwing away a ream of paper that got some water damage.

Re:The Pentagon’s $52,000 trash can by paulddraper on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:55AM (#36447671)
Presumably that would be for the Dept of VA to clarify.

> In an organization with a multi-trillion dollar annual budget, $8M in unused solar panels is a bit like you throwing away a ream of paper that got some water damage.

And yet a fraction of that amount is front page HN.

Clearly a lot of other people believe differently.

Re:The Pentagon’s $52,000 trash can by ceejayoz on Friday June 23, 2023 @11:05AM (#36447843)
> And yet a fraction of that amount is front page HN. Clearly a lot of other people believe differently.

A lot of people believe incorrect things about stuff they don't understand, yes. HN most certainly isn't immune.

Outrage bait is hardly a new phenomenon. The unit cost looks insane because it's a side effect of the fact that a defense contractor won't get out of bed without a minimum of a couple hundred grand in the contract to cover the program.

Re:The Pentagon’s $52,000 trash can by crote on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:42PM (#36449277)
You don't know in advance that you need 4 extra. Maybe the planes get replaced quickly and you're left with a hundred trash cans, maybe they keep using them for a century and you need a thousand more.