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Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by holoduke on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:56AM (#36445194)
In the Netherlands huge American pickups are very popular. I guess thats a relative good overlap.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by ako on Friday June 23, 2023 @07:37AM (#36445479)
You see some American pickups, but I wouldn’t call it very popular. They’re also very impractical, hard to park, very uneconomical. Not a very rational purchase.

The only brand popular in both the us and the Netherlands is probably Tesla.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by ffgjgf1 on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:36AM (#36445998)
What about Toyota, Honda, Ford, Subaru, Mazda, Hyundai etc.?
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by yurishimo on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:57AM (#36446210)
Hondas and Subarus are not popular in the Netherlands. They exist but are very expensive, even for older models. Go spec a new Honda on their NL site; it’s insane.

Toyota is popular with the Yaris being highly rated and reliable as measured by ANWB (Dutch AAA). Anecdotally I see a lot of Hyundais around where I live; the EV6/Ionic is a popular eclectic model.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by ffgjgf1 on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:53AM (#36456555)
Yeah, it probably depends on the country. I see quite a bit of Hondas and Subarus where I am but they don’t seem to be that popular in general.

However the Honda Civic for instance seems to have had reasonably good sales figures in Europe between 2000 and ~2018 so there must still be some around.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by ako on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:55AM (#36447676)
Those are not American pickups, except for Ford f150, etc. And you don't see a lot of those in the Netherlands, very impractical.

Regarding overlap of non-pickups, usually the models that are popular in the Netherlands are different from the models in the us. E.g., Toyota Camry is very rare in the Netherlands, same for Honda Accord.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by ffgjgf1 on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:47AM (#36456518)
I was thinking more about Ford Escape, Explorer or even Mustang rather than the F150. Indeed I don’t see why anyone would buy a pick up like that in Europe for almost any reason.

I thought we were talking about brands rather than specific models? But yeah the Camry is not that popular in Europe, RAV4 and Corolla are on both continents though.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by holoduke on Saturday June 24, 2023 @10:54AM (#36459188)
They are very practical. Maybe not if you are living in a city. If you run a company and are depending on carrying goods the f150 for example is a good bang for bucks. Maybe people cant live without. Real workhorses.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by DropInIn on Sunday June 25, 2023 @10:43AM (#36468661)
Actually, a Windstar/Aerostar/etc with the seats down/removed holds longer material with zero overhang, can hold more material than a pickup bed without the need to cover anything, and can be used to move an 8 man workcrew.

The ford model even has the same engine and transmission as their pickups (last I read).

People skip over the minivan because it's not "cool" or "too soccer mom" but JFC it's the best vehicle I've used.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by afavour on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:29AM (#36445944)
“Very popular” probably needs to be quantified. In the US pickup trucks are the best selling car type by far. I even see increasing numbers of them in NYC which is ridiculous.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by red-iron-pine on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:57PM (#36451510)
pretty popular, and growing, in big city Canada, too.

ngl, I occasionally ponder one