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Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by ojbyrne on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:06PM (#36439012)
That was fun to read, even though I would disagree with much of the article. I generally like the comedies least, the OP likes them most, but it's nice to see people talk about Shakespeare in an article linked here. A couple of comments I would make:

* "People will think I’m crazy, but yes, I’m placing Henry IV above Henry V." I doubt many people would think you're crazy, the Henry IVs are generally considered better and for the reason mentioned: Falstaff.

* On performances of Richard III: "I liked two different performances for different reasons. The 1995 major film puts the play in the World Word II era. It’s solid and does well standing alone. The BBC production has linked casting with the three parts of Henry VI, which allows one to enjoy it in full in its broader context. It’s also well-performed, but obviously has less spectacle and a lower budget." -- you really need to watch the 1955 version for Laurence Olivier's performance.

Also on editions: The Riverside Shakespeare is great. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1036552

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by jfengel on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:32PM (#36439323)
So much depends on the performance. Some of the comedies make great productions, suitably edited and with the right amount of physical comedy.

Right on the page they are nearly all a slog. The tragedies make better reading.

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by ghaff on Friday June 23, 2023 @02:22PM (#36450476)
There have been some really good productions of the comedies, e.g. Emma Thompson's Much Ado About Nothing. But often as I have seen some of them over the years, the mistaken identities/gender swapping/etc. all sort of blend together for me past some point. (Case in point, when I looked up my example, I originally typed in As You Like It.) I definitely remember the tragedies as more distinct entities.
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by as_bntd on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:49PM (#36439550)
Laurence Olivier is a great actor. I've enjoyed several of his films, including his Hamlet adaptation (which he also directed). I have yet to watch Richard III though.
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by tomcam on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:02PM (#36439710)
I thought he overacted that role. I feel it requires a much lighter touch than most actors give it.
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by as_bntd on Friday June 23, 2023 @04:12PM (#36451650)
It was my first encounter with Hamlet so I didn't have another frame of reference to judge the performance.

And I had already watched him in other movies such as Rebecca (I didn't like the movie except for the (some of the) end) so maybe I was used to his acting.

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by tomcam on Saturday June 24, 2023 @07:29PM (#36463659)
...or maybe my own taste sucks. Most movie historians adore the guy.
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by twiddling on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:37PM (#36440131)
Falstaff. Ah Falstaff.

I would recommend Orson Welles "Chimes at Midnight" as a wonderful setting of Henry IV, Parts 1 & 2.

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by bradleyjg on Thursday June 22, 2023 @07:43PM (#36440793)
He’s just wrong about Titus Andronicus. It’s far and away the worst.
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by bombcar on Thursday June 22, 2023 @08:58PM (#36441363)
I mean it has this very modern sounding dialogue:

CHIRON

Thou hast undone our mother.

AARON

Villain, I have done thy mother.

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by jonstewart on Thursday June 22, 2023 @10:32PM (#36442120)
Two Gentlemen of Verona is pretty cringe.
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by jfengel on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:08AM (#36447020)
Somehow, Julie Taymor managed to make a masterpiece out of Titus. She embraces the fact that it's a horror story, and treats that horror in a fashion akin to Tarantino: awful and beautiful.

I would have sworn it was impossible, but she did it. And having done it, I don't feel like it ever needs to be done again.

That said, I've seen moderately successful attempts at other horror-inspired approaches: grand guignol, horror fun-house, even "Titus! The Musical".

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by johncessna on Thursday June 22, 2023 @08:29PM (#36441162)
Agreed, the comedies are the least enjoyable. Like today, much of the comedy needs a context and without it, it doesn't hit as hard.
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by apendleton on Thursday June 22, 2023 @09:46PM (#36441805)
Yeah, I also liked the idea but apparently have pretty different tastes. I was pretty surprised to see Pericles and Othello almost next to each other in the rankings. Pericles is... not at all good. There's this whole build-up of dramatic tension and then in a sudden, bizarre deus ex machina moment, the plot takes a hard turn when pirates appear out of nowhere and kidnap one of the main characters for no clear reason. One production I saw at least try to lampshade the absurdity by giving the pirates eyepatches and parrots, which almost made it tolerable.

Also, maybe unpopular, but I don't love the Branagh Hamlet. It feels pretty overwrought to me, and I like Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia better than Kate Winslet's.

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by Simon_O_Rourke on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:50AM (#36443274)
I guess the immortal Bard himself was on tenderhooks to find out this overly subjective ranking of his work.

The author left out one final work, the most excellent comedie "Two Gentlemen of Lewbowski".

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Two-Gentlemen-Lebowski-Excellent-Tr...

Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by jdsnape on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:48AM (#36444009)
Sorry, this is unnecessarily pedantic, but as it's a discussion on literature I couldn't help mentioning that it's 'tenterhooks' not 'tenderhooks'
Re:My ranking of every Shakespeare play by ojbyrne on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:13PM (#36464849)
If we're going to start discussing fan fiction, we should mention the best:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ROSENCRANTZ-GUILDENSTERN-ARE-DEAD-S...