How is someone who fights against ISIS radicalized? A bunch of American vets went over there to fight ISIS too as volunteers, and they didn't get this treatment.

And what exactly has France done to fight ISIS anyway? Nothing. I guess that's a little better than what they did in Rwanda to support the genocide there... Edit: nevermind this paragraph

There are different directions in which one can be radicalised, not just ISIS style radical Islam. The group don't hide they were calling for revolution, which is pretty radical.

> And what exactly has France done to fight ISIS anyway?

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_internationale_en_Ir... (curiously the English language article doesn't mention French forces in the outline, but does in the text)

Just sent an aircraft carrier, some ships and planes, and special forces. And intelligence. Contributed more than anyone outside of the US and local forces like YPG. Led one of the first coalitions that were extremely wide (including everyone from Bahrain through Belgium and Japan to Russia and China). But sure, you haven't heard about it, so they didn't do anything

> I guess that's a little better than what they did in Rwanda to support the genocide there

Wait, is France bad when it intervenes or when it doesn't intervene? In Rwanda they didn't "support" the genocide of course, just didn't do much to stop it after supporting the faction that commited it before.

In "pacific" Europe (specially in those countries where conscription is not mandatory) voluntarily taking weapons and going to a different country to kill people, no matter the reason, IS definitely considered radicalized, in the sense that it's very, very rare and "anti-social" behavior.

In my country it's legal to go to Ukraine and fight on the Ukrainian side.

But fighting on the Russian side is illegal and is punishable by long prison terms even if you didn't commit any war crimes there.

That applies to all residents of the country - including Russian citizens.

That's insane, what country is that?

Bet it's a country that was in or close to the USSR and would really like to not go back in there...

Yup. Soon after the war started our parliament passed a law that specifically legalised this.

They are far-left activists who went to fight alongside Kurdish militias of the YPG, a group affiliated with the PKK, considered a terrorist organisation by the European Union.

That is why they were put under surveillance when they came back to France.

Here is a reference in French: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_du_8_d%C3%A9cembre_202...

Ultimately it's a bit more complicated than good people fighting versus evil people (and as far as I'm concerned, they were effectively fighting for a US proxy against another US proxy).

You don’t appear to arguing in good faith you appear very emotionally invested and are refusing to acknowledge that you’re in a discussion with intelligent people, consider reframing your argument with the assumption that the person you’re responding to has a legitimate point. Also consider removing the overtly emotional tone. In this way you can contribute to a more pleasant and engaging conversation here.

> How is someone who fights against ISIS radicalized?

The Taliban are fighting ISIS... do you consider the Taliban to be radical ?

Some people in the thread should open a book or two, we're not in "bad guys vs good guys" world