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Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by mahathu on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:14AM (#36357994)
That prediction and analogy to low-background steel has been made 128+ times before on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by juujian on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:21AM (#36358117)
Never realized I was so predictable
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by simcop2387 on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:40AM (#36358499)
Are you sure you aren't an ai already? That's also one reason I'm not so sure about the analogy because humans are already so gigantically redundant and we have lots of other bots already. I don't think there's ever been a low background steel on the internet in any real capacity. Just now it's more radioactive than it used to be
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by juujian on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:46AM (#36358600)
I will check next time I have an opportunity. Ironically, the only way to prove I'm not an AI would be for me to post content that would be restricted in language models, so here comes my proof: shit©
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by moffkalast on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:29PM (#36359391)
That proves nothing, you could just be any of the uncensored LLama or Falcon models.
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by ramesh31 on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:18PM (#36359189)
>Never realized I was so predictable

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world"

Our entire personality and sense of identity is nothing but the reflection of ourselves in relation to eachother. The summation of all cultural input. A man in a void is no more than a beast.

Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by Cas6767 on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:24PM (#36359297)
Here's Tom with the weather
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by moffkalast on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:34PM (#36359478)
"It's gon' rain."
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by salawat on Friday June 16, 2023 @08:01PM (#36365640)
Sideways!
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by MagicMoonlight on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:55AM (#36358791)
That sums up about 99.9% of humans saying things.

So really there’s not a distinction between language models and people. Other than the lack of decision making and planning, the actual communication side is identical.

Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by retrocryptid on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:23PM (#36359267)
I've seen no evidence ChatGPT has decision making or planning capabilities.
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by moffkalast on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:35PM (#36359499)
Then check out autogpt?
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by flangola7 on Friday June 16, 2023 @01:26PM (#36360464)
>No decision making ability

What prompts are you using? It helps me make decisions every day involving complex and nuanced criteria. GPT-4 (especially 32k API + plugins) is better than 95% of the directors, PMs, and CEOs I have worked under.

Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by MagicMoonlight on Saturday June 17, 2023 @02:36AM (#36367884)
Exactly, that’s the feature we have that they’re missing
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by ramesh31 on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:15PM (#36359135)
I think thats what's so unnerving about this stuff and driving all the "yeah but it actually sucks" type of articles.

The possibility that we really are just stochastic parrots is too much for people.

Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by retrocryptid on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:23PM (#36359282)
Language is a virus.
Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by chrismorgan on Friday June 16, 2023 @01:05PM (#36360071)
Sort by date <https://hn.algolia.com/?query=low%20background%20steel&sort=...> and skim through and you’ll see it’s way lower. The considerable majority of those matches are about actual low-background steel for its own sake, not for analogy with pre-LLM data (or once, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32097752, pre-microtransaction games!). Nuclear-related topics come up pretty regularly on HN.

Five pages of results; past the first page, there are only five relevant matches. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23895706 three years ago (when it wasn’t yet a problem, but it was obvious it could become a problem), then the rest all within the last year (mostly this year) (when it is obviously becoming a problem), about thirty in total, half of which are multiple related comments. So the true number of times the prediction or analogy has been made is under twenty so far, and they’re mostly saying “like someone recently said” rather than coming up with the analogy by themselves.

The number seemed unrealistically high and I was curious. Now I have an answer! :-)

Re:AI is going to eat itself: Experiment shows people traini... by mahathu on Friday June 16, 2023 @02:08PM (#36361068)
Thanks for clearing that up! It's nevertheless interesting to observe how multiple people come to the same analogy, or may be unconsciously affected by reading and then forgetting about it. Unfortunately I can't edit my original comment anymore.