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Re:Vision Pro by lttlrck on Thursday June 15, 2023 @09:25PM (#36349678)
Even if they have solved the resolution and image quality and physical comfort, having a bright OLED inches from your eyes induces more eye fatigue than looking at a monitor.

All you can do to alleviate it is close your eyes. You can't rest them by gazing out the window, across the room. Things you do naturally without realizing, that give your eyes a break.

In my experience this is as much an issue as headset physical comfort. In fact it's the one aspect that prevents me wearing a headset beyond a couple of hours.

(Plus it is a real pain to drink coffee, have a snack, open the mail; all the little side tasks we tend to do at desks)

Re:Vision Pro by mgkimsal on Thursday June 15, 2023 @10:02PM (#36350036)
> You can't rest them by gazing out the window

Please tell me we'll have a virtual window app for the VP that will simulate looking out a window. Anywhere. And it'll be touted as a way to rest your eyes without removing the VP.

Re:Vision Pro by charcircuit on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:01PM (#36350580)
The headset is not varifocal so an app like that can't be made.
Re:Vision Pro by kgabis on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:21AM (#36352724)
Is there any headset with a long focal distance? Even dumb glasses that simulate looking outside would be really useful in some work environments.
Re:Vision Pro by charcircuit on Friday June 16, 2023 @04:16AM (#36353159)
Yes there are headsets that place it at infinity
Re:Vision Pro by WhatIsDukkha on Thursday June 15, 2023 @10:09PM (#36350113)
"""having a bright OLED inches from your eyes induces more eye fatigue than looking at a monitor"""

That's quite a claim that I've seen no evidence for in the years I've been using and following this industry.

Actually the light hitting your eyes is much dimmer that you are regularly exposed to all the time so...

Re:Vision Pro by elesiuta on Thursday June 15, 2023 @10:23PM (#36350238)
This is only my personal experience, but I agree with you, even with an optimal setup I still require ~5-10 minutes of breaks every couple hours when staring at my monitor.

With VR I could easily do (when I had the time) a full day (~12 hours), with only a single 15 minute food/washroom break in the middle and no signs of discomfort at all.

Re:Vision Pro by mathgeek on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:46AM (#36354419)
> a full day (~12 hours), with only a single 15 minute food/washroom break in the middle and no signs of discomfort at all.

Wait until folks catch on that by being aware of your environment, using the washroom doesn’t require leaving AR.

Re:Vision Pro by polishdude20 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:03PM (#36350596)
I'm more interested in how it affects your eye focus. With regular VR it's hard to focus your eyes right when bringing objects closer to you. It takes some getting used to.
Re:Vision Pro by Tagbert on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:36AM (#36351317)
Since you are working within a 3D space, there should be areas where you can shift your gaze that would be the equivalent of that window and are not full brightness.

As to having a drink or snack or other activities, the crown control lets you dial in more or less of the real world around you and let you choose the degree of blending.