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Re:Reddit Doubles Down by thr_low_latency on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @09:13PM (#36320003)
Moderators _seriously_ underestimate how hated they are. At this point I'd rather the admins just take back the subs and let the voting system sort it out. Like how it did for the first 10 years of the site's life.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by lokar on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @09:20PM (#36320086)
It will be overrun by nazis pretty fast. A lot as changed in 10 years.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by thr_low_latency on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @09:43PM (#36320296)
Yes, like the definition of Nazi and the fact that Goodwin's law no longer means you lose the argument.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by xracy on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @03:05AM (#36322452)
It's not that Godwin's law meant you lost the argument. Godwin's law was just an observation, that a common evil, is an easy thing to reduce someone who disagrees with you to. So you have to avoid doing that, if you want to be able to maintain any level of discourse.

That, of course, goes out the window when the person you're arguing with legitimately identifies as a Nazi.

Re:Reddit Doubles Down by hn_thrwn on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @05:34AM (#36323502)
The issue is that other people calling you a nazi now means that you must be one. In short: Goodwins law.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by George83728 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:18PM (#36320595)
Nazis are very fringe, they don't outnumber anybody else and can't outvote people either. Moderators making claims to the contrary is ludicrous until you realize they're so far gone, they think anybody to the right of AOC is a nazi. Absurd.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by maxsilver on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:42PM (#36320765)
> Nazis are very fringe, they don't outnumber anybody else and can't outvote people either

Respectfully, Twitter is kind of living proof of the opposite -- clearly they can overwhelm/outvote people (and even out-spend regular folks, if you throw an $8 price tag barrier up), despite being a small number of the total population.

Re:Reddit Doubles Down by George83728 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:51PM (#36320830)
I don't use twitter but I sincerely doubt nazis outnumber regular users on twitter and I don't think you have real data to back up that claim. Remember, ragebait works by finding the most egregious instances of things and misrepresenting them as typical occurrences.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by hmcq6 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:37PM (#36321129)
A single person can outvote other people. It's called sockpuppeting.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by ibero on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @09:51PM (#36320363)
you or any other user could create your own subreddit. it’s not like reddit can’t discuss nba games.

there clearly is a gulf between people who actively wish to make it so and those who consume the byproduct of their effort.

Re:Reddit Doubles Down by paxys on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @09:58PM (#36320418)
The same way moderators could go create their own version of reddit. Or you an I could just start a new basketball league. Or create a new internet if we are unhappy with the existing one.

This line of reasoning goes nowhere.

Re:Reddit Doubles Down by jjulius on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:02PM (#36320464)
Sure it does. If "casual users were not happy to find out that they would have nowhere to discuss the most important game of the season" (an assertion that is incredibly laughable) and were really that upset, there could've been an r/NBA2 in half a second - far easier than recreating Reddit itself or making their own league. And yet, nobody did that...
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by Tommah on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:26PM (#36320654)
/r/nba2 exists. It was created 10 years ago.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by jjulius on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:32PM (#36320698)
I mean, I guess I assumed nobody had created an alternative NBA subreddit during the drama that OP highlighted. If anything, the fact that r/NBA2, and a bunch of other similar subs that a flagged comment mentioned in response to me, already exist only further highlights the absurdity of the claim that there's nowhere to discuss the game if r/NBA is blacked out.
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by paxys on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:01PM (#36320892)
A thousand people create alternative NBA subs and discussion boards every day. How will everyone know which exact one of them to go to?

If you think the solution to blocking a sub (or all of Reddit) is "a hundred million people can just all decide to go somewhere else the next day", you fundamentally misunderstand how the community and network effect works.

Re:Reddit Doubles Down by jjulius on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:17PM (#36321004)
I mean, it's really not at all that difficult to search for subs on Reddit and see how active they are, and then subscribe accordingly and join in on the convo. Who cares if everyone goes to the exact same one? If people spread out to a few active subs, then the discussions will continue there. A few million here, a few million there.

Some of that hundred million would disappear, sure, but hey - what percentage of subscribers are relatively inactive anyway?

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Re:Reddit Doubles Down by fud101 on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @09:17AM (#36325459)
damn i had no idea hah. but im not missing reddit, never will go back now. fuck em
Re:Reddit Doubles Down by disconcision on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:11PM (#36320544)
people complained just about as much about moderation on reddit in 2010 as they do today