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Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by JohnFen on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:32PM (#36318540)
> Prestige is a powerful motivator.

I know this to be true because I've seen so many people given BS titles instead of raises and be happy about it as if they got something of real value.

But I don't understand it at all. Apparently, I lack the "prestige" gene.

Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by tiffanyh on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:42PM (#36318637)
My favorite title bump is “Head of X”.

Because rarely the person is ever the actual head.

Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by gtop3 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:06PM (#36318888)
Declaring someone "head of X" is hedging your bet. If X goes well, then you had the foresight and leadership to expand X. If X fails, then you have a scapegoat picked out.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by JacobThreeThree on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:06PM (#36318886)
It also is not a formal executive title like manager, director, officer, VP etc.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @12:22AM (#36321429)
In finance, VP is not a “formal” executive title, it is just what they give to 24 to 26 year olds.

In retail/hospitality/many other customer facing positions, manager is also just someone who gets paid a salary in exchange for being on call and working 60+ hour weeks while shortstaffed.

Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by hattmall on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:05PM (#36318884)
It's not really prestige, so much as it is the perception of security. Many people are driven by fear and thus motivated by security. You can uncover this exceptionally well with enneagram personality tests. A nice new title would give a person that values it the belief that they are less expendable.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by carimura on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:26PM (#36319085)
that and stack ranking. "dominant male" is hardwired.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by newsclues on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:32PM (#36319148)
Some people have enough money to meet their needs, and value prestige higher.

Others may overvalue prestige.

Or maybe there are hidden benefits to it that are hard to buy (social status).

Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by 0xBABAD00C on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:39PM (#36319233)
Well, you can ask yourself what is "real value". In fact, more likely than not, it's just some imaginary stuff you ascribe value to, just like "prestige".
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by nine_k on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @09:48PM (#36320330)
Real value is something that can pay your bills :)

Sometimes prestige does it, too, e.g. when you're hired to a better position on a next job, due to your prestigious title, a part in a famous project, etc.

Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by jxramos on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @08:00PM (#36319401)
I refer to it as being "immune to prestige"
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by onos on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @08:31PM (#36319649)
I see this sort of prestige marker as useful for future job searches.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by throwaway290 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:59PM (#36321268)
Absolutely. It's part of credentials, like a diploma. Not that it's truly needed but it expands options and can help get much better pay. Even if it does not guarantee that and some people can achieve even better financial success without it, still.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by dx034 on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @03:13AM (#36322518)
It's important though if you don't want to stay at the current company forever. With the right title it's much easier to get a well paying job. Otherwise you'll have to convince future employers why you didn't have that title despite your qualifications and work.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by int0x2e on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @04:06AM (#36322925)
I call this "resume engineering". Some years ago, I decided to pass on a very impressive position at one of the then-hottest tech unicorns. I kinda liked the people, thought the tech was cool, but didn't see any way for the company to succeed.

As I thought, that company died, firing 100s of folks before the end.

It's been a few years, but a former colleague who took that job, managed to land an impressive title at my previous employer, above my level at the time... I have since left that company (unrelated), moved to a startup, and couldn't be happier.

My opinion is that titles don't matter. At all.

Compensation does matter, but you have to also value your happiness and factor that as well.

Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by red-iron-pine on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @09:29AM (#36325602)
titles certainly matter and some fields have very specific definitions as to roles and levels of responsibility. medical workers come to mind.
Re:Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys... by JohnFen on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @11:17AM (#36327273)
I have never once had a potential employer express any sort of interest in job titles. They want to know what you did in your job, how much responsibility you had, that sort of thing, and they know that job titles don't tell you that.