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Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by casenmgreen on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:05AM (#36290989)
It's a terrible thing to say this of a man, or someone who has died, but thank God.

I mean, it might well by the end he was been pretty aged in his mind and was being used or fooled or had lost the plot : his comments about Ukraine were staggering, appalling aberrations you never want to hear from someone with considerable public stature in any country.

Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by intellectronica on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:33AM (#36291256)
To his credit it has to be said that he saved the Italian state a lot of money on funeral costs by undergoing embalmment at his own cost while still alive.
Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by red-iron-pine on Monday June 12, 2023 @09:04AM (#36292780)
Nah he's still gonna find a way to bilk the state even in death
Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by braymundo on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:11AM (#36291055)
I don’t feel bad at all. He should be judged by his words and actions. I’ll celebrate shamelessly when putin dies.
Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by birracerveza on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:26AM (#36291191)
You're right, it was about time he went. His mind had deteriorated to a point where he started saying the quiet parts out loud, becoming a caricature of himself. He was frankly embarrassing to listen to and was so stiff he could barely speak, yet some people still wanted him to have a leadership position. Longing for the "good old days" as usual, I suppose.

It's certainly the end of an era for Italy.

Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by ttyprintk on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:15AM (#36291090)
His catchphrase, “sono stato frainteso,” gets to live on as an excuse for inaction and deceit.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/04/the-similarities...

Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by veave on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:51AM (#36291436)
Thank God that someone died because he didn't share your political views. You are right, that is really terrible.
Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by amrocha on Monday June 12, 2023 @07:00AM (#36291522)
He was a prime minister. He owned the most successful soccer team in Italy. He owns several Italian TV channels.

This isn't a dude over there with bad opinions. This is someone powerful who used their power to make the lives of a lot of people worse.

Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by quitit on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:11AM (#36292186)
It's a horrible thought, but one that I share. Italy is in a better place to have such a destructive and negative influence removed.

He revealed the flaw of the democratic process in that it relies on people who are inherently honest and not there merely to further their goals of power and influence.

A negative force with significant power and influence can effectively become untouchable by law, since they can corrupt the processes which are used to control such behaviour, and use their media influence to whitewash their image.

We saw time and time again a familiar pattern: Berlusconi convicted of a serious crime, only to be acquitted on appeal, then years-later further charges of witness tampering being brought raising questions of a corrupted appeals process.

Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by Gud on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:37AM (#36292446)
But this is not the democratic process! "choosing" among candidates(as infrequently as every four years) that have already been prescreened by the elites is not democracy. It's an absurd system, I reject it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy

Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by cente on Monday June 12, 2023 @09:21AM (#36292975)
It's not terrible thing to say, he was a horrible person, only God knows how much damage he has done to our country and for how many years we will have to deal with them.
Re:Silvio Berlusconi, a Showman Who Upended Italian Politics... by trilbyglens on Monday June 12, 2023 @04:01PM (#36300097)
Ya no fuck that guy. He was a complete scumbag. It's honestly just lucky that he wasn't in power during this modern age of authoritarianism.