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Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by Dudester230602 on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:01PM (#36286183)
If your store is big you can sabotage your providers: Apple to Facebook.

If your store is small your providers can sabotage you: Google to Microsoft (Windows Phone).

I wonder whom will Apple be begging for more content for their Vision - perhaps Valve?

Big respect to Apple though for inadvertently protecting their customers from web "apps". But times will change...

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by rafamaddd on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:39PM (#36286438)
> I wonder whom will Apple be begging for more content for their Vision - perhaps Valve?

If you're talking gaming content for Vision, I think they would go with Sony. They have what seems to be a good partnership. There's official support for the dualsense on apple devices and apple brought AppleMusic to the playstation store. Steve Jobs himself was a fan of Sony[1]

[1]: https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/mobile/apple/anton-shilov/...

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by Reubend on Sunday June 11, 2023 @10:15PM (#36287699)
Sony competes with Vision, since they sell PS VR. I suspect that they wouldn't want to cannibalize sales of their own hardware/platform in order to forge a partnership with Apple.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by mr_toad on Monday June 12, 2023 @12:50AM (#36288584)
Except that PS VR is VR, not AR.

My bet is that vision will launch with very few VR or even 3D apps. You probably won’t even be able to view 3D photos in the browser. It’ll be existing native 2D apps projected into a 3D cylinder.

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by zitterbewegung on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:24PM (#36286347)
From the latest WWDC (2023) Apple has actually encouraging web app support. In Safari Version 17:

Added support for web apps on macOS Sonoma. Add any website to the Dock from the File menu or Share Sheet to get to them even faster. Web apps open in their own window, and integrate with system features like Stage Manager, Screen Time, Notifications, and Focus. (68606770) [1]

[1] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-not...

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by shmerl on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:38PM (#36286433)
Encouraging support while banning competing browser engines doesn't look like encouraging.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by hgsgm on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:48PM (#36286520)
Why? As a web app developer or user, the browser engine is low on my list of priorities.

Browser engine preferences are about far more niche concerns.

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by zitterbewegung on Sunday June 11, 2023 @07:02PM (#36286636)
As a web app developer your perspective actually makes you desire a monopoly so you only have to test once. But, as a person I don't want that situation at all.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by ryandrake on Sunday June 11, 2023 @09:19PM (#36287451)
I don’t know a single non-technical end user that even knows what web “engine” powers their browser, let alone cares. This is not something real people remotely think about.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by wtetzner on Sunday June 11, 2023 @10:57PM (#36287957)
That doesn't mean it doesn't matter or doesn't affect them.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by cscurmudgeon on Sunday June 11, 2023 @11:47PM (#36288235)
Just because they don’t think about it doesn’t mean it is good for them. (E.g. sugar in almost everything that kids eat).
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by zitterbewegung on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @01:00PM (#36313202)
I didn't say real people...
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by simondotau on Sunday June 11, 2023 @11:55PM (#36288268)
To me this looks like Apple porting a feature that's existed on iOS for ages. It's one of those features "so obvious, we missed it." It's certainly a much better idea than apps made with Electron.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by ellm on Monday June 12, 2023 @05:24AM (#36290605)
I mean, "web apps" are just PWAs which iOS, Android(?), and Chrome have all supported for a while now. Still, it's nice to see a better push for web, and it's a bit of a reversal to Apple's historic position on apps (Steve Jobs opposed creating an app store, preferring web apps).