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Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:51PM (#36251037)
> All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest.

But I'd just add there is a pretty major difference between "temporarily" and "permanently". Major kudos to r/ProgrammerHumor and other subs that are doing it right - saying they will be shutting down indefinitely unless Reddit changes their stance.

Just saying you're only going to shut down for a couple days is essentially theater - Reddit can certainly wait out some popular subs being down for a few days. More generally, that's really the only way protests have a way of achieving their goals, by saying you'll engage in some behavior (or boycott) until your demands are met, or at least met with some change. Anything that's time limited is pretty much doomed to fail. For example, I'm not sure what the organizers of the recent Amazon "walkout" hoped to accomplish. That wasn't a walkout, it was lunch.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by mjr00 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:57PM (#36251092)
> But I'd just add there is a pretty major difference between "temporarily" and "permanently". Major kudos to r/ProgrammerHumor and other subs that are doing it right - saying they will be shutting down indefinitely unless Reddit changes their stance.

A permanent closure of a popular sub is 100% going to lead to Reddit declaring the sub abandoned, replacing the mod team, and reopening. Has happened many times before. Not sure if programminghumor in particular meets that popularity threshold though.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:41PM (#36251527)
> Has happened many times before.

Do you have examples, specifically when a subreddit went dark in protest and Reddit replaced the mods?

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by SauciestGNU on Thursday June 08, 2023 @10:20PM (#36252305)
I recall one popular but controversial subreddit's founder (think it was KotakuInAction) shut down the subreddit because he didn't like what it had become, and the admins demodded him and gave the sub to its other mods.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by hn_throwaway_99 on Friday June 09, 2023 @10:25AM (#36258269)
That's a pretty different case, and exactly why I asked the question.

I have heard of cases where essentially a mod went on a power trip/tantrum and wanted to shut down a subreddit, but that behavior specifically angered the vast majority of subscribers to that subreddit. I think the optics and reality of that are very different from a subreddit shutting down to protest the API changes (in some cases, subreddits held polls).

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by hsdropout on Friday June 09, 2023 @01:32PM (#36261125)
Didn't the satire version of r/onlyfans have a similar story?
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by diydsp on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:11PM (#36251228)
> replacing the mod team,

That's like immigrant jobs: You can take them away but there aren't hoards of passionate volunteers chomping at the bit to replace them.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by Macha on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:20PM (#36251325)
I mean, there's plenty of people lining up to have the "authority" of an internet mod, but not so many that can be trusted not to set up their own petty dictatorship or get bored when they realise what mods actually mostly do.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by stevenwliao on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:41PM (#36251529)
Can confirm as a subreddit mod.

The day to day is mostly deciding whether borderline comments should be removed and whether a post contains too much self-promotion.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by unsupp0rted on Friday June 09, 2023 @02:51AM (#36254247)
Why do you do it?
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by faeriechangling on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:07AM (#36254359)
Not the same person, but one perk is you can influence a chunk of people just by abusing things like stickies.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by stevenwliao on Friday June 09, 2023 @04:15AM (#36254843)
People are so cynical on HN lol- see my sibling comment.

I like Internet communities and am willing to volunteer some time to help some be more successful.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by canadianfella on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:31PM (#36251428)
Yes there are. Lots of money can be made as mods of popular subreddits.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by sv123 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:40PM (#36251519)
How do they do that? Asking for a friend.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by tapland on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:56PM (#36251690)
You let some selfpromoting astroturfed stuff slip > product/service has an unbeliveable sales increase
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by somsak2 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:46PM (#36251582)
Reddit can pay mods, just like every other social network does. Not rocket science, and if they did it just for the top ones, wouldn't cost that much.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by CamelCaseName on Thursday June 08, 2023 @09:56PM (#36252158)
Reddit can largely automate moderation. It's not hard, but... there are a lot of not hard things that Reddit screws up.

If this was even 1 year ago, things would be different. But it's not.

(I moderate a major subreddit)

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by beezlewax on Friday June 09, 2023 @02:04AM (#36253891)
Why work for free?
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by unsupp0rted on Friday June 09, 2023 @02:56AM (#36254273)
If not paid in dollars, mods get paid in power and authority. Interacting with mods who accept power and authority as payment goes about how you’d expect.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by CamelCaseName on Friday June 09, 2023 @08:05AM (#36256553)
Because I'm an idiot.

There is something wrong with me that in the 90-9-1 rule, I need to be the 1%. I see a forum, and I can't stop myself from commenting or posting. Getting invited to moderate happens naturally after that.

I wish I was the 90%.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by slg on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:01PM (#36251126)
A temporary action is a demonstration of intent, motivation, and power. It is a negotiation tactic to use in place of more extreme actions but doesn't eliminate those actions from being taken in the future. A walkout might precede a strike and a temporary subreddit shutdown might proceed a permanent shutdown. Sure, in a way it is "theater", but so are most negotiating tactics.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by websap on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:57PM (#36251098)
Well, I'll be deleting my account and am texting / uploading stories on my other social media accounts to ask my friends and connections to do the same. Reddit has taken the content and hard work of 1000s of users, monetized it, and now wants to shut the gates.
Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by hn_thrwn on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:55PM (#36251077)
The only people worse than reddit admins are reddit mods.

They seem to be under the impression that being allowed to occupy a digital space means they own it. This will be educational to them when they are all banned and replaced with chatbots.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by test098 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:06PM (#36251171)
reddit the company doesn't produce any content. they rely on people creating communities, cultivating them, and actively moderating them (for free!). i'd say that gives those creators more of a claim to ownership than the platform hosting that content. reddit doesn't exist without them - what value does the site have if they kick out everyone who "occupies" reddit.com?

would you participate in an online forum only populated with chatbots?

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by yjftsjthsd-h on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:13PM (#36251254)
> This will be educational to them when they are all banned and replaced with chatbots.

If they are replaced with chatbots, then I'm sure that the result will be educational to somebody. Not necessarily with the conclusion you imply, though.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by stevenwliao on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:43PM (#36251544)
I would love to replace my modding activities with a bot.

We're not there yet.

Re:r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit... by hn_thrwn on Friday June 09, 2023 @12:19AM (#36253081)
We've had random number generators for a while.